Friday, September 30, 2016

TSA Week in Review September 23rd - 29th - 72 Loaded Firearms, 5-Bladed Floggers, and More

Firearms discovered in carry-on bags.

TSA discovered 77 firearms this week in carry-on bags around the nation. Of the 77 firearms discovered, 72 were loaded and 32 had a round chambered. All of the firearms pictured were discovered in the last week. See a complete list below.
Two 5-bladed floggers.

These 5-bladed floggers were discovered in a carry-on bag at Houston (IAH). All bladed items should be packed in checked baggage.
Concealed firearm.

You can’t see it, but underneath the modeling clay and duct tape is a loaded 9mm firearm inside of a computer. It was discovered in a checked bag at Houston (IAH). Firearms are permitted in checked bags, but they have to be declared, unloaded and properly packed. You can go here for more details on how to properly travel with your firearms.
Smoke Grenade

A live smoke grenade was discovered in a checked bag at Phoenix (PHX).          
Inert Grenades

Two inert grenades were discovered this week in carry-on bags at Fayetteville (FAY) and Kansas City (MCI). Anything resembling a live grenade is strictly prohibited from both carry-on and checked baggage.
Knives and Throwing Stars
Clockwise from the top, these items were discovered in carry-on bags at ABQ, SAN, LAS, BOI, MSO and PHX.


In addition to all of the other prohibited items we find weekly in carry-on bags, our officers also regularly find firearm components, realistic replica firearms, bb and pellet guns, airsoft guns, brass knuckles, ammunition, batons, stun guns, small pocketknives and many other prohibited items too numerous to note. 

  

When packed properly, ammunition can be transported in your checked baggage, but it is never permissible to pack ammo in your carry-on bag.



Firearms Spreadsheet
You can travel with your firearms in checked baggage, but they must first be declared to the airline.






Firearm possession laws vary by state and locality. Travelers should familiarize themselves with state and local firearm laws for each point of travel prior to departure.



Unfortunately these sorts of occurrences are all too frequent which is why we talk about these finds. Sure, it’s great to share the things that our officers are finding, but at the same time, each time we find a dangerous item, the line is slowed down and a passenger that likely had no ill intent ends up with a citation or in some cases is even arrested. The passenger can face a penalty as high as $11,000. This is a friendly reminder to please leave these items at home. Just because we find a prohibited item on an individual does not mean they had bad intentions; that's for the law enforcement officer to decide. In many cases, people simply forgot they had these items.



*In order to provide a timely weekly update, this data is compiled from a preliminary report. The year-end numbers will vary slightly from what is reported in the weekly updates. However, any monthly, midyear or end-of-year numbers TSA provides on this blog or elsewhere will be actual numbers and not estimates.



Read our 2015 Year in Review post! If you haven’t read them yet, make sure you check out our year in review posts for 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014.



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29 comments:

RB said...

Five bladed flogger. Opus Dei?

GSOLTSO said...

Doubtful, these are for flaying an enemy, the blades are too large I believe. You may be thinking about a Flagrum Scourge. You can see one of the popular representations here : http://www.indyprops.com/pp-flagrum.htm

There were also scourges and razor scourges used through history, that would be similar in fashion to the ones pictured. Nice reference though!

West
TSA Blog Team

GSOLTSO said...

After more research, I am going to add Muharram celebrations to the possible (probable based upon images and videos found online). So, take a look at a Muharram celebration here:

https://youtu.be/VIFME289bk0

West
TSA Blog Team

RB said...

Not that it matters but blades on the end of a flogger make a very poor weapon, as evidenced in the video clip West posted. Air resistance will turn the blade flat and the edge will most likely not make contact when swinging the device. I can understand why this type of item would not be permitted in carry-on luggage but there are much more effective things available right in the cabin to use as a weapon should a person have a mind to do something like that.

So how much harmless water did TSA interdict last week?

Frank Schultz said...

How many of the people with firearms had evil intent?

Chip and Andy said...

Frank Schultz said...
How many of the people with firearms had evil intent?

According to Bold Posting Intern we can never know because the TSA doesn't interview any of them to ask that question.

Chris Russo said...

"Frank Schultz said...
How many of the people with firearms had evil intent?

October 4, 2016 at 8:04 AM"

Right, Because the one covered in duct tape and modeling clay was obviously left in there unintentionally.

Wintermute said...

Art project, perhaps?

Chip and Andy said...

"... Chris Russo said...
"Frank Schultz said...
How many of the people with firearms had evil intent?

October 4, 2016 at 8:04 AM"

Right, Because the one covered in duct tape and modeling clay was obviously left in there unintentionally."

It was found in a checked bag. While it may have been on its way to something evil, the plane nor the passengers nor any part of the airport would be on the list of potential targets.

Boldly said...

Chip and Andy said...
Frank Schultz said...
How many of the people with firearms had evil intent?

According to Bold Posting Intern we can never know because the TSA doesn't interview any of them to ask that question.

correct, and even if they did ask, how would that conversation go?

"why do you have that gun at the airport?"

"well Officer, good thing TSA caught it, I had intended on taking over the plane."

Probably not going to happen that way. Bringing a gun to the airport is not a felony so its not like the police are going to do an investigation.

B said...

Those "inert grenades" are not even grenades. They are metal cast in the shape of a 75-year old WWII grenade. Real grenades, the M67, don't even look like that: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=m67+grenade&ia=web

So, congratulations, TSA, you confiscated random objects made of metal. Passengers' housekeys pose a greater threat.

Boldly said...

B said...
Those "inert grenades" are not even grenades. They are metal cast in the shape of a 75-year old WWII grenade. Real grenades, the M67, don't even look like that: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=m67+grenade&ia=web

So, congratulations, TSA, you confiscated random objects made of metal. Passengers' housekeys pose a greater threat.

you know that, many others know that, but if a guy pulls that out of his bag at 30,000 feet nobody will care to ask if it is real or not. How many banks are robbed with nothing more than a pointed finger? come on, that was an easy one. You must be looking for reasons to be critical.

Chip and Andy said...

Boldly said...you know that, many others know that, but if a guy pulls that [replica grenade] out of his bag at 30,000 feet nobody will care to ask if it is real or not.

So even you, the TSA's biggest fan, admits that no one trusts the TSA. Because if it is on the aircraft it was supposed to have been screened therefore it should not be a threat to anyone. So if people are going to flip out at the mere sight of a replica grenade then the TSA can't even do security theater correctly.

"...How many banks are robbed with nothing more than a pointed finger? "

Citation needed.

Wintermute said...

I don't know how many banks have been robbed with just a pointed finger, but I am guessing that the number is zero, lately, or it would have made national news.

Boldly said...

It was found in a checked bag. While it may have been on its way to something evil, the plane nor the passengers nor any part of the airport would be on the list of potential targets.

unless it was part of an insider threat involving baggage handlers...
You just never know. That is why even guns in checked baggage have to be declared and locked. Why are the answers so simple yet nobody thinks of them?

Boldly said...

So even you, the TSA's biggest fan, admits that no one trusts the TSA. Because if it is on the aircraft it was supposed to have been screened therefore it should not be a threat to anyone. So if people are going to flip out at the mere sight of a replica grenade then the TSA can't even do security theater correctly.

"...How many banks are robbed with nothing more than a pointed finger? "

Citation needed.

Did I say that no one trust the TSA, did I? If so, I would like to see where I said it.
Of course everything is supposed to be screened. Does that mean it is? I don't know. But I can tell you that every passenger including yourself would assume that it is a live grenade and not question it if it was displayed while in flight. It so simple to error on the side of caution in this case. But, you know as well as I do why they don't allow them. I'm guessing you're just bored.

Boldly said...

I don't know how many banks have been robbed with just a pointed finger, but I am guessing that the number is zero, lately, or it would have made national news.


Go figure...wrong again....

http://6abc.com/news/robber-pretends-finger-is-gun-during-gas-station-holdup/1319108/

Just one example

Wintermute said...

Gas station does not equal bank.

Chip and Andy said...

Bold Posting Intern said "unless it was part of an insider threat involving baggage handlers...
You just never know. That"

Eight Billion tax dollars every year and commercial aviation is still at risk from an insider threat?

Chip and Andy said...

"...Just one example"

One.

And it wasn't a bank.

Just saying

Wintermute said...

How is it going to be displayed in flight when it's in checked baggage? There are much more efficient attack vectors by insider threats than a fake grenade in checked baggage, so a passenger would have to get to the cargo hold, hope it was actually on the same flight (luggage does not always take the same route as the passenger), find the correct bag, then make it back to the passenger cabin and display it, just to be pummeled by other passengers. Too many failure points in such a plot.

Wintermute said...

Also, you failed to address the security risk of house keys. Also belts, shoe laces, pens and pencils, and countless other items that are allowed. Security, as performed by TSA, is theatre. Plain and simple. It does little to stop actual threats while preventing items with minimal risk - and even then, less than 10% of the time.

Wintermute said...

When the evidence doesn't fit the argument, move the goalposts. It's one of the many logical fallacies deployed by both Body and West in comments on this blog.

Boldly said...

Chip and Andy said...
Bold Posting Intern said "unless it was part of an insider threat involving baggage handlers...
You just never know. That"

Eight Billion tax dollars every year and commercial aviation is still at risk from an insider threat?

of course it is, and it always will be. why would you think differently?

Boldly said...

How is it going to be displayed in flight when it's in checked baggage? There are much more efficient attack vectors by insider threats than a fake grenade in checked baggage, so a passenger would have to get to the cargo hold, hope it was actually on the same flight (luggage does not always take the same route as the passenger), find the correct bag, then make it back to the passenger cabin and display it, just to be pummeled by other passengers. Too many failure points in such a plot.

again, someone forgot about the possibility of an insider threat. What if a baggage handler took it out of the bag and gave it to a passenger? I guess this is why we have TSA. Most people don't understand the entire risk and the many possibilities. And I know you are some kind of super hero, but if a passenger is holding a grenade, even you wont jump up and "pummel" him. You and everyone on that plane are going to do exactly what he ways.

Chip and Andy said...

Bold Posting Intern said again "...but if a passenger is holding a grenade, even you wont jump up and "pummel" him. You and everyone on that plane are going to do exactly what he ways."

Nope. You might be compliant with the guy waving around a fake grenade but don't project your plans onto others.

I am going to assume that any grenade I see on the aircraft are inert or otherwise inoperable. And if a hijacker is trying to get control of the aircraft using a grenade I am going to laugh uncontrollably because that would be the most useless method to use. Open the door? Or what, your going to blow yourself up?

Wintermute said...

Did you actually read my comment? "There are more efficent attack vectors by insider threats..."

Also, you can speak to what anyone else's reaction to a fake grenade on a flight would be except your own. There's this thing called courage. Some people still have it.

RB said...

Boldly said...


again, someone forgot about the possibility of an insider threat. What if a baggage handler took it out of the bag and gave it to a passenger? I guess this is why we have TSA. Most people don't understand the entire risk and the many possibilities. And I know you are some kind of super hero, but if a passenger is holding a grenade, even you wont jump up and "pummel" him. You and everyone on that plane are going to do exactly what he ways.

October 23, 2016 at 10:38 AM

Taking out the threat is exactly what would happen. People have learned that terrorists kill just for killings sake so they would take the chance of neutralizing the threat.

Sitting back and cooperating is pre 9/11 thinking. NO MORE!!

Wintermute said...

"Bringing a gun to the airport is not a felony..."

LEO is called in the case of firearms, regardless of their legality... Why? A crime hasn't been committed (in most states) until it's entered the sterile area. LEO isn't required to tell someone their options. A TSAgent could do the same thing.

Oops... there went your argument about cell phones not being illegal...