Monday, February 8, 2016

TSA Week in Review: January 29th - February 4th

62 firearms were discovered last week in carry-on bags around the nation. Of the 62 firearms discovered, 51 were loaded and 18 had a round chambered. All of the firearms pictured were discovered last week. See a complete list below.
A cane sword was discovered in a passenger’s carry-on property at Philadelphia (PHL).    
Clockwise from the top, the knives were discovered at ITO, BUF, ORD. ORD and DAL.


In addition to all of the other prohibited items we find weekly in carry-on bags, our officers also regularly find firearm components, realistic replica firearms, bb and pellet guns, airsoft guns, brass knuckles, ammunition, batons, stun guns, small pocketknives and many other prohibited items too numerous to note.

You can travel with your firearms in checked baggage, but they must first be declared to the airline.


Firearm possession laws vary by state and locality. Travelers should familiarize themselves with state and local firearm laws for each point of travel prior to departure.

Unfortunately these sorts of occurrences are all too frequent which is why we talk about these finds. Sure, it’s great to share the things that our officers are finding, but at the same time, each time we find a dangerous item, the line is slowed down and a passenger that likely had no ill intent ends up with a citation or in some cases is even arrested. The passenger can face a penalty as high as $11,000. This is a friendly reminder to please leave these items at home. Just because we find a prohibited item on an individual does not mean they had bad intentions; that's for the law enforcement officer to decide. In many cases, people simply forgot they had these items.

*In order to provide a timely weekly update, this data is compiled from a preliminary report. The year-end numbers will vary slightly from what is reported in the weekly updates. However, any monthly, midyear or end-of-year numbers TSA provides on this blog or elsewhere will be actual numbers and not estimates.

Read our 2015 Year in Review post! If you haven’t read them yet, make sure you check out our year in review posts for 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014.

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Bob Burns
TSA Social Media Team

63 comments:

Wonder Meat said...

So are we back to the bad old days where most valid, policy-following comments are deleted and the rest are delayed by days again?

Who has been and is managing comments from Jan 29, 2016 until Feb 9, 2016?

Anonymous said...

Test. Please delete.

RB said...

"Check in regularly for "TSA Travel Tips" and our end of week "TSA Week in Review" posts on Fridays."


MONDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 2016

TSA Week in Review: January 29th - February 4th

Posted by Bob Burns (TSA Blog Team) at 2/08/2016 11:39:00 PM
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Just like TSA, deadlines mean nothing. Look at the Final Rule for Strip Search Machines as an example. Years past due.

GSOLTSO said...

Wonder Meat sez "Who has been and is managing comments from Jan 29, 2016 until Feb 9, 2016?"

I have. I was also on a detail that took me out of circulation for a bit last week - however, 5 of the last 7 days comments have been moderated at least once a day.

Anon sez - "Test. Please delete."

I copy 5 by 5. Unable to comply with delete request, over.

West
TSA Blog Team

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Hello Anonymous (whoever you are) for years I have been reading this Blog, and I have finally come to the conclusion that the majority of you go out of your way to vilify the TSA. You will make up stories, tell half-truths, or just outright lie to suit your needs. Well I’m here to tell you that TSA is not a bad organization; yes they have problems, but every other corporate structure in the world dose too. You’re just mad because you think TSA is infringing on your rights. WRONG! Flying is not a right; you have to do what the airlines want you to do in order to fly. So you have to put up with a little inconvenience, it’s worth it to keep passengers safe. If you don’t like what TSA is doing, then do the world a favor, DON’T FLY!!!!!!!!!

And by the way, every post I have ever posted has shown up, they have never been deleted. So if you follow the rules of this blog site, your comments will show up.

RB said...

GSOLTSO said...
Wonder Meat sez "Who has been and is managing comments from Jan 29, 2016 until Feb 9, 2016?"

I have. I was also on a detail that took me out of circulation for a bit last week - however, 5 of the last 7 days comments have been moderated at least once a day.
.............
So only West manages comments now? What about Lynn? What is her function on the blog?

Anonymous said...

West, since you knew you'd be gone, why didn't your other team members pick up the slack and approve comments? Did they know you were not approving comments?

NO comments were approved for several days, so your statement that you were reviewing comments for 5 out of 7 days is nonsense. More valid comments than the one or two approved early last week were made by the taxpaying public, but were not approved over the last nine days. In fact, some of them still haven't shown up.

Are you going to blame the mysterious "someone at HQ" for the deleted comments, like you have before?

Anonymous said...

Hello, Not-So-Bold TSApologist.

You again talk as if everyone in the world has the exact same experienced as you, which is impossible.

You post only pro-TSA comments, so of course your comments will always be approved.

Those of us taxpayers who are critical of the TSA have had many comments THAT MET BLOG POLICY which were deleted and never approved.

Do you understand now? Critical comments THAT meet blog policy ARE deleted. Got it?

RB said...

For those of you who think TSA "keeps you safe" I would encourage you to read the following article.


TSA: Total Security Abyss

"A budget of $7 billion. A workforce of 55,000. Useless explosives-screening "puffing" machines. Unreliable full-body scanners. Thousands of lost and stolen badges and weapons. Unknown numbers of criminals, illegal aliens, imposters and terror operatives with security clearance to do as they please on ramps and runways across America."

Anonymous said...

On August 5, 1974, the Air Transportation Security and Anti-Hijacking Acts of 1974 (P.L. 93-366) were signed. Among many important provisions, this landmark aviation security law directed that regulations be prescribed requiring weapons-detecting screening of all passengers and carry-on property. The law is located in Title 49, United States Code (U.S.C.), sections 44901 (Screening passengers and property) and 44902 (Refusal to transport passengers and property). For many decades an airline ticket's fine print has contained an agreement by the purchaser to submit to a search for unlawful dangerous weapons, explosives or other destructive substances. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is responsible for such screening prior to departures from commercial airports within the United States since the signing of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act (P.L. 107-71) on November 19, 2001. Freedom of movement is not denied unless a passenger refuses to submit to a search required by law. There are, however, a number of other safety and homeland-security-related issues covered in 49 U.S.C. Chapter 449 and Title 49 Code of Federal Regulations in the 1540 series that could impede movement, such as a passenger's name appearing on a "no fly" or "selectee" list. Regardless of the constitutionality of laws passed post-9/11 with respect to freedom of movement being a privilege.

Susan Richart said...

West (and Bob) must have bee among the TSA employees at the Super Bowl over the weekend. Did we, the taxpayers, pay for your transportation?

screen shot DHS/OIG statement

Anonymous said...

As always, absolutely nothing you needed your slow, invasive, and ineffective naked body scanners to detect. Meanwhile, how many people suffered physical searches thanks to false alarms on these useless machines?

Why are Curtis Burns and West Cooper unwilling to address, let alone answer, that question?

How many weeks has it been since you last trumpeted something dangerous you found with the naked body scanners?

Wintermute said...

Hello Anonymous. You are very, very wrong. Flying IS a right. The US Supreme Court decided that a LONG time ago.

Also, I have posted many comments well within the guidelines and had them not show up (and others that were probably a little outside that did). So you're wrong there, too.

Anonymous said...

TSAnonymous of Feb 10, 5:21pm.

So? Our rights, privacy, and visits are being violated. The TSA tries their hardest to keep their actions out of the courts so the Constitutionality of these grotesque policies and procedures can't be tested.

Wrong is wrong. The TSA is wrong.

Anonymous said...

Just curious Wintermute--which Supreme Court decision are you referring to that guaranteed that flying is a right? Don't think it is one of the mentioned ones in the beginning of the Declaration of Independence. Otherwise, I think Nature's God would have given us wings.

GSOLTSO said...

RB sez - "So only West manages comments now? What about Lynn? What is her function on the blog?"

No. Lynn participates at the blog, but like the other blog members, she has a primary function that takes up most of her time at work.

Anon sez - "NO comments were approved for several days, so your statement that you were reviewing comments for 5 out of 7 days is nonsense."

Incorrect, I moderated at least once a day, 5 of the 7 days before I posted that. If certain comments were not posted, they were either not submitted properly and never made it to the moderation queue, or they violated the posting guidelines.

Anon sez - "Are you going to blame the mysterious "someone at HQ" for the deleted comments, like you have before?"

Please indicate where and when I made the exact comment like you have here. I remember saying something along the lines of "Some PR People at HQ have some access to the queue/webpage for emergency or contingency circumstances" - but I do not recall ever specifically blaming someone at HQ for anything.

Anon sez - "Do you understand now? Critical comments THAT meet blog policy ARE deleted. Got it?"

This is simply not true, a simple reading of the comments on just about every single post we have done will give an indicator to the veracity of the above comment. Now, there may be comments submitted that were not posted due to violations of the posting guidelines - however, I have never seen comments deleted or prohibited simply because they express a critical point of view to the organization.

Susan sez - "West (and Bob) must have bee among the TSA employees at the Super Bowl over the weekend. Did we, the taxpayers, pay for your transportation?"

I am going to make a logic jump and take it that the word above was supposed to be "been", not "bee". The answer to that for me was no, I was working at my airport the day before, the day of and (worst of all) the day after the Super Bowl. I am pretty certain that Bob was not there either, considering I didn't get any emails about it (because, lets face it, if either of us had gone to the Super Bowl, we would have sent an email about it, especially if we were sitting on the 50 yard line). The answer to your question at the end is no.

West
TSA Blog Team

RB said...

GSOLTSO said...

Incorrect, I moderated at least once a day, 5 of the 7 days before I posted that. If certain comments were not posted, they were either not submitted properly and never made it to the moderation queue, or they violated the posting guidelines. 
?..................?

West, do you believe that TSA Blog posting guidelines trump the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION?

Anonymous said...

I have refrained from flying over the past 5 years as a result of having items stolen from my baggage and through the security lines. Between this and the airlines treating passengers like cattle, I've chosen to drive the 1,100 mile commute to cut my losses. I can now carry what I need to take home or from home to work without fear of losing valuables. Sorry, but my liberties and security are my choice, and since they aren't a priority to government nor airlines and I'm only a number on a cramped seat, my loyalty as a customer is exhausted.

1111mima said...

My husband and I were TSA Pre-approved, we are 66 & 75 years old. We thought that by being pre approved, the checking points would be easier. True, I did not have to take my shoes off. JFK was not as bad. However on our return from BGN airport. My TSA approved lock including the latches were broken! Was it because my suitcase was 10# over? I spoke with the jetblue rep., "bags can be opened and a letter indicating that it was, would be put inside. There was no notice and now I have a suitcase I can't lock! So much for TSA pre-approved. $85 each for nothing!

Wintermute said...

Anonymous... How is a decision by a group that didn't exist yet supposed to be referenced by a document which predates it? (I also assume you meant US Constitution instead of Declaration of Independece, but my point stands either way.) But flying as a right is also codified in law. Google is your friend.

Wintermute said...

This is simply not true, a simple reading of the comments on just about every single post we have done will give an indicator to the veracity of the above comment. Now, there may be comments submitted that were not posted due to violations of the posting guidelines - however, I have never seen comments deleted or prohibited simply because they express a critical point of view to the organization

This is an outright lie, West. I don't keep track of all my comments, but I do know for a fact that ones I've made that were within guidelines were not posted. So you are either lying, or you're calling me a liar. Or someone else is moderating comments.

Wintermute said...

In case my othrr comment is deleted, and to save you a little work... Gilmore v. Gonzales...

Anonymous said...

My husband and I were TSA Pre-approved, we are 66 & 75 years old. We thought that by being pre approved, the checking points would be easier. True, I did not have to take my shoes off. JFK was not as bad. However on our return from BGN airport. My TSA approved lock including the latches were broken! Was it because my suitcase was 10# over? I spoke with the jetblue rep., "bags can be opened and a letter indicating that it was, would be put inside. There was no notice and now I have a suitcase I can't lock! So much for TSA pre-approved. $85 each for nothing!

rather than be so quick to blame TSA, file a claim. TSA will pull video from when your bag was screened IF it even was. Keep in mind, ALL bag checks are video taped. If your bag was pulled for additional screening, there will be a record of it and it will be on video. If there was no bag check note inside, I would venture a guess that TSA did not open it. Most officers are not willing to do a bag check, break a bag and not leave a not. That would be a violation and could cost them their job.
It is just as likely if not more likely that IF your bag was opened, it was opened by an airline baggage handler who is not on video. Airline baggage handlers or not video tapped when they are loading a plane or unloading a plane. I know most people blame TSA for theft, but you need to look at who is on video and who isn't. Not saying there are not thieves at TSA. Sadly there have been many. File a claim, get the video and see what really happened before blaming a potentially innocent TSA officer.

Anonymous said...

I have refrained from flying over the past 5 years as a result of having items stolen from my baggage and through the security lines. Between this and the airlines treating passengers like cattle, I've chosen to drive the 1,100 mile commute to cut my losses. I can now carry what I need to take home or from home to work without fear of losing valuables. Sorry, but my liberties and security are my choice, and since they aren't a priority to government nor airlines and I'm only a number on a cramped seat, my loyalty as a customer is exhausted.

more people should follow your lead.

Susan Richart said...

Wintermute wrote:

"This is an outright lie, West. I don't keep track of all my comments, but I do know for a fact that ones I've made that were within guidelines were not posted. So you are either lying, or you're calling me a liar. Or someone else is moderating comments."

That's spot on, sir.

Susan Richart said...

1111mima wrote:

" "bags can be opened and a letter indicating that it was, would be put inside...."

According to comments at @AskTSA, that happens a lot - items damaged, including locks, and stolen, but no note is left. Of course, if there is no note, then the TSA can claim it wasn't them who damaged, destroyed and stole.

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

RB said...

Wintermute said...
This is simply not true, a simple reading of the comments on just about every single post we have done will give an indicator to the veracity of the above comment. Now, there may be comments submitted that were not posted due to violations of the posting guidelines - however, I have never seen comments deleted or prohibited simply because they express a critical point of view to the organization

This is an outright lie, West. I don't keep track of all my comments, but I do know for a fact that ones I've made that were within guidelines were not posted. So you are either lying, or you're calling me a liar. Or someone else is moderating comments.

February 15, 2016 at 10:13 AM
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TSA and its employees couldn't function if they didn't lie about everything.

Fix the TSA said...

West,

There is at least one TSA employee who has deleted comments that meet blog policy. Who it is, you keep secret, but valid comments are deleted and you know it.

You stated on May 16, 2015 "only blog team members and certain HQ elements approve comments."

Therefore, Bob, West, and Lynn, plus other unnamed TSA employees delete comments, including ones that meet blog policy.

Jim said...

Wow. Thanks to Wintermute for providing a citation for your claim that flying is a right. But, putting on my rumpled trench coat ala Columbo, I'm confused. I looked up Gilmore v Gonzales and found that the case did not make it to the Supreme Court and the lower court denied all of Gilmore's claims. Here is the link I viewed: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1363992.html To be clear, the way I read this case, the court decided that flying is NOT a right under the constitution and that denying someone the ability to fly for not adhering to the rules does not violate their 4th amendment, due process, right to assemble, or right to petition. Maybe I missed something. Or maybe you can't believe everything you read.

The more I read this blog (and I have been reading for a couple of years now), the more I think we are wasting our taxpayer dollars on at least one thing - moderating comments on this blog. I think I would rather have Bob & company spend their time finding guns & other weapons in carryon bags.

While I find some of the rules funny or downright strange, I can say that I have never had a bad experience with TSA. Maybe its because I expect to be treated with respect and I get what I expected. Maybe its because they do their job well. Or maybe I have just been drinking the wrong kool-aid and am delusional. In any case, Bob & Company please keep up the good work. To those who don't like the TSA, write your congressman and work to get the law repealed.

THANKS for listening!

Jim said...

PS: for those of you who think someone is purposely withholding or deleting your comments, I suggest you read what is right above the comment box, namely "This is a moderated blog, and TSA retains the discretion to determine which comments it will post and which it will not." While I don't think that Bob & Co are doing this out of spite - they did warn you. If you don't like the rules, don't post. And likewise, don't fly - I would appreciate the extra space on my next flight.

Wintermute said...

Case in point, I just reviewed your guidelines. Nowhere does it state that I cannot reveal my own name and address within a comment, yet you deleted my comment. Not only that, even though you didn't mention my name or pseudonym, you also publicly chastised me for doing so. I challenge you to quote from the posted comment guidelines where that comment would have been prohibited, other than the part about your "discretion."

GSOLTSO said...

1111mimia sez - "However on our return from BGN airport. My TSA approved lock including the latches were broken! Was it because my suitcase was 10# over? I spoke with the jetblue rep., "bags can be opened and a letter indicating that it was, would be put inside. There was no notice and now I have a suitcase I can't lock! So much for TSA pre-approved. $85 each for nothing!"

Belaya Gora airport (BGN) is not operated by TSA. PreCheck would not be applicable at an airport not operated by TSA (at least, to the best of my knowledge, PreCheck is not available at any foreign airport - but certainly not at BGN).

Wintermute sez - "This is an outright lie, West."

No, it was not. I have never removed, nor have I seen or heard of someone removing a comment from this blog simply because it was critical of TSA - ever.

West
TSA Blog Team

GSOLTSO said...

Wintermute sez - "Case in point, I just reviewed your guidelines. Nowhere does it state that I cannot reveal my own name and address within a comment, yet you deleted my comment. Not only that, even though you didn't mention my name or pseudonym, you also publicly chastised me for doing so. I challenge you to quote from the posted comment guidelines where that comment would have been prohibited, other than the part about your "discretion."

I am sorry, I am not tracking here. Where in the comment you replied to "chastise" you for putting your own name and address in a comment?

West
TSA Blog Team

Anonymous said...

My heavens, Boldy, for someone who claims not to work for the TSA you seem to have a great deal of knowledge:

"rather than be so quick to blame TSA, file a claim. TSA will pull video from when your bag was screened IF it even was. Keep in mind, ALL bag checks are video taped. If your bag was pulled for additional screening, there will be a record of it and it will be on video. If there was no bag check note inside, I would venture a guess that TSA did not open it. Most officers are not willing to do a bag check, break a bag and not leave a not. That would be a violation and could cost them their job.
It is just as likely if not more likely that IF your bag was opened, it was opened by an airline baggage handler who is not on video. Airline baggage handlers or not video tapped when they are loading a plane or unloading a plane. I know most people blame TSA for theft, but you need to look at who is on video and who isn't. Not saying there are not thieves at TSA. Sadly there have been many. File a claim, get the video and see what really happened before blaming a potentially innocent TSA officer."

RB said...

Anonymous Jim said...
PS: for those of you who think someone is purposely withholding or deleting your comments, I suggest you read what is right above the comment box, namely "This is a moderated blog, and TSA retains the discretion to determine which comments it will post and which it will not." While I don't think that Bob & Co are doing this out of spite - they did warn you. If you don't like the rules, don't post. And likewise, don't fly - I would appreciate the extra space on my next flight.


February 15, 2016 at 10:54 PM

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The TSA Posting Guidelines place a definite chill on a citizens right to free speech. This is a taxpayer funded, government operated website and censorship is a violation of the 1st Amendment. TSA employees took an Oath to Defend the Constitution but here on the TSA Blog that Oath is routinely violated.

Wintermute said...

No, it was not. I have never removed, nor have I seen or heard of someone removing a comment from this blog simply because it was critical of TSA - ever
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Since only one of us can be right, then, if you did not lie, then you are calling me a liar. Or you are mistaken, and someone else HAS deleted posts that fell within guidelines (btw, way to move the goalpost there... I never said critical... I said that fell within guidelines) without your knowledge.

Wintermute said...

I am sorry, I am not tracking here. Where in the comment you replied to "chastise" you for putting your own name and address in a comment?
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Mr/Ms Bold had posted a "put up/shut up" comment awhile back when someone called them out for posting anonymously. I replied by "putting up" and posted my name and address, as it is easily found on the net anyway. You not only deleted my reply (which falls within guidelines - you still haven't shown me where it doesn't) and posted a comment of your own stating not to post our names/addresses. You may not have named me in your comment, but it was definitely prompted by my comment, which I maintain WAS within guidelines, unless you can point to somewhere within the comment guidelines that state otherwise. Which you won't, because you can't.

Fix the TSA said...

@Jim, this blog is on a government website and it is managed by government employees. They do NOT have the right to delete valid comments by the American public on their own whim, no matter what "rule" they feel like putting in the content policy.

As for "not flying", stop trying to suppress fellow Americans rights and freedoms. We have the right to address wrongs by our government. Americans have the right to travel and perform interstate commerce without undue interference by the government.

If you are okay handing over your rights and freedoms, and allow the government to intrude on your privacy, body, and property, that is your problem.

The rest of us are utilizing our Constitutional rights of speech to protect everyone's rights and freedoms, even yours.

Fix the TSA said...

West, we cannot know if you are willingly or unwillingly in the dark about deleted comments, but here is the truth:

Multiple comments by several commenters that met blog policy have been deleted and never approved and posted.

Can we start working this out by you acknowledging this fact?

GSOLTSO said...

Wintermute sez - "No, it was not. I have never removed, nor have I seen or heard of someone removing a comment from this blog simply because it was critical of TSA - ever
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Since only one of us can be right, then, if you did not lie, then you are calling me a liar. Or you are mistaken, and someone else HAS deleted posts that fell within guidelines (btw, way to move the goalpost there... I never said critical... I said that fell within guidelines) without your knowledge."

I never moved the goal posts on you, you moved them yourself by using an apples and oranges quote run.

The comment I made at the beginning was -
"Anon sez - "Do you understand now? Critical comments THAT meet blog policy ARE deleted. Got it?"

This is simply not true, a simple reading of the comments on just about every single post we have done will give an indicator to the veracity of the above comment. Now, there may be comments submitted that were not posted due to violations of the posting guidelines - however, I have never seen comments deleted or prohibited simply because they express a critical point of view to the organization."

Which earned your comment -
"This is simply not true, a simple reading of the comments on just about every single post we have done will give an indicator to the veracity of the above comment. Now, there may be comments submitted that were not posted due to violations of the posting guidelines - however, I have never seen comments deleted or prohibited simply because they express a critical point of view to the organization

This is an outright lie, West. I don't keep track of all my comments, but I do know for a fact that ones I've made that were within guidelines were not posted. So you are either lying, or you're calling me a liar. Or someone else is moderating comments."

This inspired the response in line with MY original comment (since that was the quoting that started this back and forth) -
"Wintermute sez - "This is an outright lie, West."

No, it was not. I have never removed, nor have I seen or heard of someone removing a comment from this blog simply because it was critical of TSA - ever."

This series (which began with me quoting someone else) brings us to this quote from you, which is a complete switch in subject matter -
"No, it was not. I have never removed, nor have I seen or heard of someone removing a comment from this blog simply because it was critical of TSA - ever
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Since only one of us can be right, then, if you did not lie, then you are calling me a liar. Or you are mistaken, and someone else HAS deleted posts that fell within guidelines (btw, way to move the goalpost there... I never said critical... I said that fell within guidelines) without your knowledge.

I was answering the statement that we delete comments simply because they are critical of TSA - which is completely untrue in my experience. So, I am not calling you a liar, you were commenting on a completely different statement as if it were directed towards you... Unless, you were posting anonymously as well, and you mixed up your comments in passing. Either way - I did not call you a liar, nor did I imply it, I simply made a statement of fact.

West
TSA blog Team

GSOLTSO said...

Wintermute sez - "Mr/Ms Bold had posted a "put up/shut up" comment awhile back when someone called them out for posting anonymously. I replied by "putting up" and posted my name and address, as it is easily found on the net anyway. You not only deleted my reply (which falls within guidelines - you still haven't shown me where it doesn't) and posted a comment of your own stating not to post our names/addresses. You may not have named me in your comment, but it was definitely prompted by my comment, which I maintain WAS within guidelines, unless you can point to somewhere within the comment guidelines that state otherwise. Which you won't, because you can't."

I have never posted personally identifiable information whether it is included voluntarily, or by someone else. It states clearly in the Comment Policy (linked on the main page) -

"To protect your own privacy and the privacy of others, please do not include personally identifiable information, such as name, Social Security number, phone numbers or email addresses in the body of your comment. If you do voluntarily include personally identifiable information in your comment, such as your name, that comment may or may not be posted on the Blog."

The names of active DHS/TSA employees (with some notable exceptions like senior leadership and those of us that post our info here and in the other PR sections), will not be posted in comments either.

West
TSA Blog Team

GSOLTSO said...

Fix the TSA sez - "Multiple comments by several commenters that met blog policy have been deleted and never approved and posted.

Can we start working this out by you acknowledging this fact?"

I will not acknowledge that as a fact, because many people disagree as to what meets the posting guidelines. Some folks post with vulgarities, personal attacks, threats of violence, the personal information of employees (to include hacked information from private sources) - and every single one of those posters feel as though their comments meet the guidelines (they do not). The guidelines are fairly clearly posted, and we still have comments almost daily that violate different facets of the policy.

I WILL agree to that fact that some comments are deleted due to violations of the comment policy. Some comments may be picked out by SPAM filters (that has happened to some of our regular posting crew before). Some comments may not show up due to technical glitches.

West
TSA Blog Team

Anonymous said...

My heavens, Boldy, for someone who claims not to work for the TSA you seem to have a great deal of knowledge:


thanks. I do my research. It isn't difficult. More people should try it

Anonymous said...

Oh, Oh, Wintermute and Fix the TSA have hit a nerve. :-)

Fix the TSA said...

West,

Your response is disappointing, but not surprising.

Comments that did NOT include "vulgarities, personal attacks, threats of violence, the personal information of employees (to include hacked information from private sources" nor "SPAM" nor "technical glitches" WERE DELETED.

Pro-TSA comments that DID include personal attacks and spam WERE APPROVED BY TSA EMPLOYEES.

Your failure to admit the truth is disappointing, but not surprising. Your assertion that every deleted comment meets your extreme descriptions above is just more TSA propaganda and spin. Again, disappointing, but not surprising.

Let's do some tests. See what appears and what does not. This may make the "comment policy" more clear to everyone.

Fix the TSA said...

Top guns photo:

Rightmost photos, 2nd or 3rd row, are cut off.

Leftmost photo, 4th row down, has a fake note or title on it.

Wintermute said...

I see no guidelines linked from the main page. But then, I'm mobile and TSA hasn't figured out their design problems with the full site yet.

GSOLTSO said...

Wintermute sez - "I see no guidelines linked from the main page. But then, I'm mobile and TSA hasn't figured out their design problems with the full site yet."

The very first link in the right hand column is titled "Comment Policy" on the main page. The link below should take you there.

http://blog.tsa.gov/2008/01/comment-policy.html

West
TSA Blog Team

Wintermute said...

As I said, I'm mobile. That column does not exist on mobile.

Fix the TSA said...

West,

I have submitted a comment three times to this post. Twice it's been deleted, and I don't know if you'll delete the third one.

So let's do the tests I talked about earlier. Let's find out what part of an American taxpayer's comment is deleted by a government employee on a government website.

PART ONE OF FIVE

You make a false agreement above. We are talking about valid comments THAT MEET blog policy, but are deleted, NOT invalid comments that don't meet blog policy being deleted. Stop trying to change the facts.

First full comment submission February 18, 2016 at 7:50 AM

Second full comment submission February 21, 2016 at 2:24 AM

Third full comment submission February 21, 2016 at 11:40 AM


Fix the TSA said...

West,

I have submitted a comment three times to this post. Twice it's been deleted, and I don't know if you'll delete the third one.

So let's do the tests I talked about earlier. Let's find out what part of an American taxpayer's comment is deleted by a government employee on a government website.

PART TWO OF FIVE

Since you are being so careful to only claim you "haven't seen" valid comments being deleted, and you work in N. Carolina, while Bob, Lynn (what does she actually do for this blog?), and your secret "HQ elements" work in the wider DC area, of course you "haven't seen" with your own eyes when Bob, Lynn, and "HQ elements" delete comments.

First full comment submission February 18, 2016 at 7:50 AM

Second full comment submission February 21, 2016 at 2:24 AM

Third full comment submission February 21, 2016 at 11:40 AM

Fix the TSA said...

West,

I have submitted a comment three times to this post. Twice it's been deleted, and I don't know if you'll delete the third one.

So let's do the tests I talked about earlier. Let's find out what part of an American taxpayer's comment is deleted by a government employee on a government website.

PART THREE OF FIVE

Also note that in your statement that you are publicly claiming to have NEVER deleted valid comments that met blog policy. (Though you again try to parse words by saying there weren't deleted "simply because they express a critical point of view to the organization.") It is certainly possible you, Bob, Lynn, and "HQ elements" used other vague reading of the rules or your own whims for deleting valid comments.

First full comment submission February 18, 2016 at 7:50 AM

Second full comment submission February 21, 2016 at 2:24 AM

Third full comment submission February 21, 2016 at 11:40 AM

Fix the TSA said...

West,

I have submitted a comment three times to this post. Twice it's been deleted, and I don't know if you'll delete the third one.

So let's do the tests I talked about earlier. Let's find out what part of an American taxpayer's comment is deleted by a government employee on a government website.

PART FIVE OF FIVE

Who at the TSA will step up and WORK WITH US to get this blog on the path to ethics, accuracy, and transparency?

First full comment submission February 18, 2016 at 7:50 AM

Second full comment submission February 21, 2016 at 2:24 AM

Third full comment submission February 21, 2016 at 11:40 AM

GSOLTSO said...

Wintermute sez - "As I said, I'm mobile. That column does not exist on mobile."

Luckily, I included a link for you to peruse the information at your leisure.


Fix the TSA sez - "You make a false agreement above."

Actually, I indicated what I would agree to, that can not be false, even if I choose to change my mind in the future.

Also - "Also note that in your statement that you are publicly claiming to have NEVER deleted valid comments that met blog policy. (Though you again try to parse words by saying there weren't deleted "simply because they express a critical point of view to the organization.") "

Actually I said " I have never removed, nor have I seen or heard of someone removing a comment from this blog simply because it was critical of TSA - ever." - in response to comments that critical comments are deleted.

Fix also sez - "I have submitted a comment three times to this post. Twice it's been deleted, and I don't know if you'll delete the third one."

I have not seen the comment you are stating you submitted to this forum (all five parts in one message). I have no idea what happened to it, whether it was user error, a technical glitch, or it was tossed by a SPAM filter - I have never seen that comment on this blog.

West
TSA Blog Team

Wintermute said...

What happened to part 4? Do you check the spam filters for valid comments? Someone deleted it, or you're not checking the spam folder to make sure it's tossing valid comments. Which means you're a pretty incompetent moderator. Sad, really. I used to have faith in your ability with the blog. Recently, you've squandered that away. I'd have more faith in Bold's ability to moderate.

Fix the TSA said...

West, three times I submitted the full text of my comment, all five parts in one session, using two different systems on two different networks. It was NOT user error, a technical glitch, nor spam filtering all three times.

I see that Part 4 of 5 was not posted, so did you delete it?

There is no HTML in Part 4. There are no swear words, no mention of any TSA airport employee by name, nothing that would trigger spam filtering because all of these words have been used many, many times on this blog.

In part 4 I ask that someone higher in the TSA organizational structure than the current "social media team" address the issue of deleted comments.

What exact words in Part 4 of my comment offended you so much that you deleted it?

GSOLTSO said...

Fix sez - "I see that Part 4 of 5 was not posted, so did you delete it?"

Nope, I have not seen a part 4 in the queue. Please feel free to repost it, if it shows up in the queue, I will review it and post it.

Wintermute sez - "What happened to part 4?"

See above.

West
TSA blog Team

Fix the TSA said...

West says, "Nope, I have not seen a part 4 in the queue. Please feel free to repost it, if it shows up in the queue, I will review it and post it."

So did Bob see it? Lynn see it? An HQ element see it?

You're saying that out of eight submitted comments on two or more computer systems and networks over four days, with no spam wording, no HTML, nothing different, that no one in the TSA deleted 50% of the submitted comments?

This is the problem, West. Will you agree that it is a problem?

Fix the TSA said...

West,

Here is the missing PART FOUR OF FIVE. This particular paragraph, with this exact wording and punctuation, has been deleted four times so far:

Since you cannot provide the assurances needed and refuse to agree to basic facts and start working out this issue, an "HQ element", Bob's manager, Lynn's manager, the head of the "social media team", or anyone higher than a screener in N. Carolina needs to address this issue with your readers, the American taxpaying public.

Fix the TSA said...

Hi West,

I submitted it (fourth time a charm?), Feb 24 at lunchtime. Did it arrive?

Fix the TSA said...

Whoever finally approved my Feb 24, 2016 at 1:49 PM comment after four previous deletions and three days of delay, thank you.

Wintermute said...

That does not answer what happened to it. Did you check the spam queue? Did someone else delete it? I highly doubt that it was submitted incorrectly, seeing as how the other four parts were fine. I also highly doubt it was a technical issue, as Blogger is more reliable than that. Do you not find it prudent to have someone investigate?

Fix the TSA said...

West, now that I played your game and my comments were finally posted, a reply and action is required on the part of the "social media team."