Sunday, September 6, 2015

TSA Labor Day Travel Tips 2015


Labor Day is quickly approaching! Whatever it is you’re doing for the holiday, if you’re traveling by commercial aircraft, here are some tips and links that will help get you on your way.







Preparing for travel can be stressful, but it doesn’t need to be. Learn travel tips for your next flight with these short videos. Planning ahead and packing properly can facilitate the screening process and ease your travel experience at the airport. Know what you can pack in your carry-on and checked baggage before arriving at the airport by viewing the prohibited items page. Pack smart and get through the line faster!

Double Check: If you’re grabbing a bag, suitcase, briefcase, jacket and other items you haven’t used in a while, be sure to give them the onceover so you don’t accidentally take something prohibited at the checkpoint. Many people who have brought guns, ammunition, knives and other prohibited item say that they did so unknowingly.


Batteries – You can’t go anywhere without some kind of battery these days. Read this post to learn about what types of batteries you can travel with.

Foods: Cakes, pies, bread, donuts, turkeys, etc., are all permitted. Here is a list of items that should be placed in your checked bags or shipped: cranberry sauce, creamy dips and spreads (cheeses, peanut butter, etc.), gift baskets with liquid or gel food items (salsa, jams and salad dressings), gravy, jams, jellies, maple syrup, oils and vinegars, sauces, soups, wine, liquor and beer. 

Beverages: Wine, liquor, beer, and all of your favorite beverages are permitted in your checked baggage. You can also bring beverages packaged in 3.4 oz. or less bottles in a baggie in your carry-on bag. 


Blades: Anything with blades, points or spikes should be placed in your checked baggage. This includes knives of all sizes, and blender and food processor blades. Nail clippers and corkscrews are permitted, but models with blades attached are prohibited.
Camping, Backpacking, or Fishing: If you’re heading to the great outdoors, be sure to check out this post for tips on traveling with camping and fishing gear.

Deodorant: Gel and spray deodorants are limited to 3.4 oz. or less but stick deodorant is not. 

Lose Something? Find the lost & found contacts for each airport.


Makeup: Any liquid makeup cosmetics such as eyeliner, nail polish, liquid foundation, etc., should be placed in the 3-1-1 liquids bag. That goes for perfume as well. Powder makeup is fine. Read more!
Forgotten or Lost IDs: If you have lost or forgotten your ID, you may still be permitted to fly as long as you help us verify you are who you say you are by answering a few questions. Read this post for more information. 

Medication: One of the more popular questions we get from travelers is: “Can I travel with my medication?” The answer is yes, with some qualifiers. Read these tips about traveling medication.

Shaving Razors: You can get more information from our blog post on this subject with pictures that will help answer your questions.


Sporting Goods: Golf clubs, baseball bats, cricket bats, bows and arrows, hockey sticks, scuba knives, spear guns, etc., are all prohibited from being carried onto the plane. However, you can place them in your checked baggage. Read more!
Traveling With Children: Did you know children 12 and under can keep their shoes on? If you’re going on a family trip this summer, read about traveling with children..

TSA Recognized Locks: Want to lock your checked baggage? Be sure to read this post first.

TSA Cares: Travelers or families of passengers with disabilities and medical conditions may call the TSA Cares helpline toll free at (855) 787-2227 with questions about screening policies, procedures and what to expect at the security checkpoint 72 hours prior to traveling. In addition, injured service members and veterans including individuals associated with a wounded warrior program may contact TSA Cares to help facilitate the screening process.


TSA Pre®: TSA Pre® is an expedited security screening program connecting travelers departing from the United States with smarter security and a better air travel experience. Passengers considered low-risk who qualify for the program can receive expedited screening either as a member of the program or another specific trusted traveler group. It’s available at more than 150 airports with 12 participating airlines. Learn how to apply.



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Bob Burns
TSA Social Media Team


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80 comments:

Anonymous said...

The private company contractors who run the "ask TSA" Twitter account are being paid by our tax dollars. Does this mean the rest of the TSA Twitter accounts will be canceled?

Will these private company contractors answer questions the blotter team and the TSA PR hacks have refused to answer for years?

Why does the American taxpayer need this blotter if the blotter team has handed over citizen interaction to a private company?

Why should we pay for the blotter team at all?

Anonymous said...

If we're concerned about being "protected" by a multi-billion-dollar boondoggle of an agency whose employees screw up their only job 19 times out of 20, and then have their bosses lie to Congress about how the testing was carried out-- should we report THAT to the nearest TSO? I feel like the "see something, say something" mentality ought to apply here.

Maybe Bobby and West feel differently?

Anonymous said...

How can I tell if I am being given a pat-down that is according to TSA's guidelines, or if I am being sexually assaulted by a screener? After Denver, I don't trust you people even a little bit.

Anonymous said...

Why is pre-check not the standard level of screening for all passengers, not just the wealthy, elite, and lucky few?

Anonymous said...

Blotter Bob, posting a "Labor Day Holiday" post on Sunday night (8:11 pm) is useless when the holiday is 2/3rds over.

Will you get holiday or overtime pay for doing this blotter post on a holiday weekend? If so, that is a waste of Americans' tax dollars.

Anonymous said...

How can I tell if I am being given a pat-down that is according to TSA's guidelines, or if I am being sexually assaulted by a screener? After Denver, I don't trust you people even a little bit.

you can always ask for a supervisor. You can ask for a private screening and have someone in your party present when you are screened. After they explain the procedure, which they MUST do, ask questions if you have them. You have rights.

Anonymous said...

Why is pre-check not the standard level of screening for all passengers, not just the wealthy, elite, and lucky few?

wealthy? Elite? Its $85.00 for 5 years. That is less than 5 cents a day. if you fly two round trips a year, its less than $5.00 per flight.
My opinion on this, because I'm sure nobody will give you the exact answer, is that the time involved with screening each passenger to the "precheck" level would be astronomical. Think about it from a numbers standpoint. 18 million people fly each day. if 75% are not precheck that leaves 13 million. The time involved with screening and doing background checks on 13 million people a day would take forever. And what if it wasn't done in time? Do you miss your flight? Go without screening. Every day, a different set of 13 million people? It just isn't feasible. commence with the bashing.

Anonymous said...

No comment from Bobby and West about the fantastic job that a JFK screener did in protecting the flying public from expensive watches?

I imagine she'll be given a commendation for her services to the nation.

Anonymous said...

Why is a pie permitted yet many other liquids and gels are not? There is no way I could get a pie into a 3 oz container, and I probably couldn't stuff it into a quart bag. I have a suspicion that I would get hassled at the checkpoint if I tried to bring a pie through. Please explain to me why a pie is allowed but a small jar of peanut butter is not.

Speaking of liquids, there was a story a couple of weeks ago about parents not being allowed to bring unopened milk boxes through security. I'm looking at some juice boxes in my house and they are 6 oz and I could get 3 of them easily into a quart bag. I could possibly get 4 in there but it would be tight. If I can get a juice box into a quart bag, why does it matter how much liquid the box contains? Why is one 6 oz box prohibited, but if they were two 3 oz boxes, they would be allowed? It's the same amount of liquid either way and they both fit inside the quart bag. It's also far less liquid or gel that would be in a pie.

I get the use of the quart bag to limit the total amount of liquids. Why does it matter if I have one large container of liquids or several small containers if they all fit inside the quart bag?

RB said...

Not only can we not tell if a pat down is being conducted within proper guidelines TSA confiscates supposedly allowed nitroglycerin medicine and will not update TSA guidance on medicines to specifically state that this type of medicine is allowed.

TSA makes the flying pubic less safe.

Susan Richart said...

Snort! Sunday night at 8 p.m. I guess Bob forgot to post this earlier in the week and rather than upset his bosses, he took the "better late than never" path. Only that path just opened him up for even more ridicule.

OTOH, I'm pleased to see two threads on one page again. Hope it continues. Or were you in such a hurry, Bob, that you neglected to put this thread on a separate page?

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

Anonymous said...

some additional suggestions for TSA to make our travel and security experience as convenient as possible:

1) eliminate TSA and return to pre-911 screening. the TSA makes things no more secure, and arguably less secure, since we now know that TSA misses 95% of prohibited items, as opposed to 60% or lower in testing of the old systems. in addition, the 911 attacks focused on 2 gaps in security: unsecured cockpit doors, and the training of flight crews and passengers to be compliant. both of those are now corrected - no one is going to take over an airliner with a penknife.

2) full and total transparency of all DHS and TSA regulations, rules, procedures, and watch/no-fly lists, as well as public comment periods for new rules, and an independent appeal process for those placed on no fly or terrorist watch lists (as ordered by the federal courts).

3) eliminate the Pre-Bribe, er, Pre-Check program. it is a waste of taxpayer dollars as well as flat out insulting to be required to pay to have a background check done in order to be screened in a semi-sane way. if I hold a security clearance and a concealed weapons permit, the federal and state governments have already paid for or charged me for, a background check. why does TSA require this wasteful duplication???

4) eliminate ID requirements. it is unConstitutional (freedom to travel domestically is not guaranteed only if the govt can ID you), and it contributes nothing to security. what does it matter if you know my name, if I am carrying a bomb? why is my name any damn business of yours if I am not carrying a bomb or
intending some kind of threat?

Anonymous said...

So, are those TSA backdoor keys still super-secure like everything the TSA does?

Anonymous said...

I continue to wait for some justification for active duty military being included in pre-check, but not retired military or holders of current DoD or LE background investigations. military retirees have at least 20 years documented service to this Nation, pretty much proving their lack of risk. both DoD and LE background investigations should reveal any risk factors. active duty military do not, necessarily, have a background check or any significant length of service. neither citizenship nor a background investigation is required to enlist in the military, in fact there are likely illegal immigrants serving. if it is really about safety, then why are potentially unscreened non-citizens allowed through? sounds like it is just pandering to an admirable group to get PR, not adjusting the rules to ease screening on those who present a lower likelihood of threat.
Let me be clear: pre-911 screening should be the norm. it is all that is required, now that cockpit doors have been reinforced and locked, and flight crews and passengers know that the rules have changed and passivity=death. however, if we are going to continue this massive waste of tax dollars on security theatre, at least have _some_ of the rules make sense. now you're even allowing college kids (kaydets) to endure more reasonable screening, but those who served and sacrificed for 20+ are out of luck.

Anonymous said...

I, too, would like to know the difference between a TSA pat down and a sexual assault.

RB said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Blotter Bob, posting a "Labor Day Holiday" post on Sunday night (8:11 pm) is useless when the holiday is 2/3rds over.

Will you get holiday or overtime pay for doing this blotter post on a holiday weekend? If so, that is a waste of Americans' tax dollars.

September 7, 2015 at 7:01 AM

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Typical performance for a TSA employee.

It's time for a new TSA Blogger, someone who cares.

Anonymous said...

No comment from Bobby and West about the fantastic job that a JFK screener did in protecting the flying public from expensive watches?

I imagine she'll be given a commendation for her services to the nation
what is there to say? She was arrested, charges filed, no longer works for TSA. Well that about wraps it up. Feel better?

Anonymous said...

Not only can we not tell if a pat down is being conducted within proper guidelines TSA confiscates supposedly allowed nitroglycerin medicine and will not update TSA guidance on medicines to specifically state that this type of medicine is allowed.

TSA makes the flying pubic less safe.

all medication is allowed. It may get tested, but no medication will be refused. Perhaps an officer made a mistake once and did not allow nitro pills to go, but they are absolutely allowed. But you knew that

Anonymous said...

"you can always ask for a supervisor."

What if the supervisor, like the screeners in Denver, is conspiring to sexually assault passengers?

"You can ask for a private screening and have someone in your party present when you are screened."

How does that help me know what a "proper" pat-down is?

"After they explain the procedure, which they MUST do, ask questions if you have them. You have rights."

What rights, exactly, are these, and how do I use them to keep myself from being the victim of a sexual assault by a TSA screener?

Anonymous said...

some additional suggestions for TSA to make our travel and security experience as convenient as possible: security is not about "convenience".

1) eliminate TSA and return to pre-911 screening. over 3000 fatalities would argue against that the TSA makes things no more secure, and arguably less secure, since we now know that TSA misses 95% of prohibited items, as opposed to 60% or lower in testing of the old systems.meaningless results, but people will trumpet anything that helps their cause in addition, the 911 attacks focused on 2 gaps in security: unsecured cockpit doors, and the training of flight crews and passengers to be compliant. both of those are now corrected so there is no more threat? remember the under ware bomber, the shoe bomber? the threat is real. As soon as we relax, we will be hit. you would be foolish to think otherwise. no one is going to take over an airliner with a penknife.

2) full and total transparency of all DHS and TSA regulations, rules, procedures, and watch/no-fly lists, so terrorist know exactly how to beat the system? we should give bank rober keys to the doors and the vault combos too. as well as public comment periods for new rules, and an independent appeal process for those placed on no fly or terrorist watch lists (as ordered by the federal courts).

3) eliminate the Pre-Bribe, er, Pre-Check program. it is a waste of taxpayer dollars as well as flat out insulting to be required to pay to have a background check done in order to be screened in a semi-sane way. those who pay it, love it. if I hold a security clearance and a concealed weapons permit, the federal and state governments have already paid for or charged me for, a background check. why does TSA require this wasteful duplication???

4) eliminate ID requirements. it is unConstitutional (freedom to travel domestically is not guaranteed only if the govt can ID you), and it contributes nothing to security. Really?I would want to know the sister Mary really is Sister Mary and not Bombing Betty who just stole Sister Marys boarding pass. I want to know the person entering the checkpoint IS the person who had the background check don . what does it matter if you know my name, if I am carrying a bomb? why is my name any damn business of yours if I am not carrying a bomb or
intending some kind of threat? layers of security. You cannot rely on any one piece of security to be 100% foolproof. You would be crazy to think you can

Anonymous said...

I, too, would like to know the difference between a TSA pat down and a sexual assault.
one is legal, constitutional and non sexual in any way shape or form. it is explained in detail prior to receiving it. it can be done in public or private if you choose and can be witnessed by anyone of your choosing.

Nick Porfilio said...

Regarding traveling with alcoholic beverages, I understand that the TSA allows "beverages packaged in 3.4 oz. or less bottles in a baggie in your carry-on bag." But you should also note that U.S. airlines (and probably even most international airlines) don't allow passengers to drink alcoholic beverages that they bring onboard themselves. This airline policy makes sense since the flight attendants want to be able to monitor the alcoholic intake of each passenger. So you should advise passengers that even if they do get past TSA security with these small bottles of alcohol, they cannot drink it onboard a flight.

RB said...

Anonymous said...
I, too, would like to know the difference between a TSA pat down and a sexual assault.

September 8, 2015 at 11:25 AM
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There is no difference.

Susan Richart said...

Our Bold Blotter Intern wrote: "18 million people fly each day."

Wrong, fella. The actual number is less than 2 million in the U.S. Maybe 8 million worldwide.

Care to try again with your analysis?

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

Susan Richart said...

Not certain my initial comment went through so I am posting it again:

Our Bold Blotter Intern wrote: "18 million people fly each day."

Wrong, fella. The actual number is less than 2 million in the U.S. Maybe 8 million worldwide.

Care to try again with your analysis?

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

Anonymous said...

To the bold commenter, 18,000,000 people don't fly every day in the US. About 12,000,000 people fly every week.

SSSS for Some Reason said...

"... and corkscrews are permitted, but models with blades attached are prohibited."

So a twisty bit of metal with a sharp point is OK, but a straight bit of metal with a sharp edge isn't. Because no bad guy would ever think to use a corkscrew instead of a knife as a weapon.

Is arbitrary rules with arbitrary enforcement a part of your layer cake of security?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why is pre-check not the standard level of screening for all passengers, not just the wealthy, elite, and lucky few?

wealthy? Elite? Its $85.00 for 5 years. That is less than 5 cents a day. if you fly two round trips a year, its less than $5.00 per flight.
My opinion on this, because I'm sure nobody will give you the exact answer, is that the time involved with screening each passenger to the "precheck" level would be astronomical.


Why would everyone have to be screened to that level? If you randomly allow people into the pre-check line now then obviously 'that level' of screening is not needed for anyone.

RB said...

Anonymous said...
So, are those TSA backdoor keys still super-secure like everything the TSA does?

September 8, 2015 at 9:23 AM
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Your post was the first I heard of this but apparently no TSA Approved lock is of any value.

http://www.wired.com/2015/09/lockpickers-3-d-print-tsa-luggage-keys-leaked-photos/

Lockpickers 3-D Print TSA Master Luggage Keys From Leaked Photos

"A group of lock-picking and security enthusiasts drove that lesson home Wednesday by publishing a set of CAD files to Github that anyone can use to 3-D print a precisely measured set of the TSA’s master keys for its “approved” locks—the ones the agency can open with its own keys during airport inspections."

There you have it, TSA has made the public less safe AGAIN!!

Anonymous said...

"one is legal, constitutional and non sexual in any way shape or form."

Really? A complete stranger forcing me to let them rub my genitals and stick their hands in my pants is not sexual in any way, shape, or form?

Ksubrent61 said...

"you can always ask for a supervisor. You can ask for a private screening and have someone in your party present when you are screened. After they explain the procedure, which they MUST do, ask questions if you have them. You have rights."

Um, actually you have some misinformation. I had to have many "hands on" screenings this summer while flying because my arm was in a sling from surgery. Since these were trips for work I was traveling solo. TSA did not allow my camera phone to be used when under going these private screenings. So, I was at the mercy of a government agency which I do not trust to behave. It is is OK for two TSA employees to be in the room, then why can I not be allowed to use my camera phone as my witness?

Also, the TSA patdown procedure allows TSA employees to touch people in places during a search where legit law enforcement officers are not allowed to touch until someone is in formal custody.

Anonymous said...

Does the person who tries to refute everyone's negative comments towards the TSA by posting responses in bold type, work for the TSA? If so, shouldn't you be telling us that you are a TSA employee when you post? The rest of the TSA bloggers let us know that they are employees.

I didn't see any answers as to why pies are allowed or why the size of individual liquid containers matter. If the container fits inside a quart bag, it should be allowed. There is no difference in the amount of liquid between one 9 oz. two 6 oz, or three 3 oz containers and they will all fit inside a quart bag.

One last thing. Do you think the TSA would have prevented 9/11? Keep in mind that box cutters were permitted that day, the hijackers had valid boarding passes and ID's, the cockpit doors weren't locked, and passengers & crews were told to cooperate with hijackers up until the people on flight 93 decided to fight back.

RB said...

all medication is allowed. It may get tested, but no medication will be refused. Perhaps an officer made a mistake once and did not allow nitro pills to go, but they are absolutely allowed. But you knew that

September 9, 2015 at 1:55 PM
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Not true.

Clear Care products used to maintain contact lenses are not permitted.

Doober said...

"non sexual in any way shape or form." When one's genitals are being groped it certainly is sexual. If it makes the gropee feel uncomfortable, it's sexual.

Anonymous said...

 Anonymous said...I, too, would like to know the difference between a TSA pat down and a sexual assault.one is legal, constitutional and non sexual in any way shape or form. it is explained in detail prior to receiving it. it can be done in public or private if you choose and can be witnessed by anyone of your choosing.September 9, 2015 at 2:11 PM
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Last limited pat down I had was exiting the Whole Body Imager. The TSA Screener gave no advisement or warning before trying to put hands on me and was offended when I objected and pulled back.

So tell me, where are the guidelines that tell me what the TSA screener was suppose to do?

Anonymous said...

"My opinion on this, because I'm sure nobody will give you the exact answer, is that the time involved with screening each passenger to the "precheck" level would be astronomical."

You think it would take MORE time to put everyone through the faster, less invasive level of screening? That's absurd. Just imagine the time ending the shoe carnival and belt nonsense ALONE would save.

CatchTheLies said...

Bold TSApologist said...
"all medication is allowed. It may get tested, but no medication will be refused. Perhaps an officer made a mistake once and did not allow nitro pills to go, but they are absolutely allowed. But you knew that

September 9, 2015 at 1:55 PM
"

Under what governmental authority are you claiming you have the right and knowledge to say, "all medication is allowed" through a TSA screening area?

You have stated previously that you are not a TSA employee and claim to know no one at the blog.

West - why did the TSA blotter team allow this unsubstantiated claim on this government website?

Who do you know in the TSA? You have been asked several times, but never have replied, Bold TSApologist.

Why do you, Bold TSApologist, continually make statements as to TSA policies and procedures without any direct knowledge or apparent authorization from the TSA to do so?

Anonymous said...

RB said...
Anonymous said...
So, are those TSA backdoor keys still super-secure like everything the TSA does?

September 8, 2015 at 9:23 AM

..............
Your post was the first I heard of this but apparently no TSA Approved lock is of any value.

http://www.wired.com/2015/09/lockpickers-3-d-print-tsa-luggage-keys-leaked-photos/

Lockpickers 3-D Print TSA Master Luggage Keys From Leaked Photos

"A group of lock-picking and security enthusiasts drove that lesson home Wednesday by publishing a set of CAD files to Github that anyone can use to 3-D print a precisely measured set of the TSA’s master keys for its “approved” locks—the ones the agency can open with its own keys during airport inspections."

There you have it, TSA has made the public less safe AGAIN!!

September 10, 2015 at 10:14 AM



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Heck, you can pick the TSA lock with a paper clip. I did it.

RB said...

14 years have gone by since the terrorist attacks against the United States and where are we today?

Taxpayers are paying to have our civil rights abused, our bodies physically assualted, and now have to prove who we are in order to travel all at the hands of TSA and its employees numbering somewhere over 60,000 people strong.

TSA, a group of federal quasi-police, and many TSA employees falsely see themselves as "federal officers", who clearly have no concept of basic security standards, restricts common liquids and such but just tosses these too dangerous to fly items in common trash bins right at the checkpoints, and by their own testing fail 95% of the time during covert testing.

A group of federal employees who are so poorly managed that TSA screeners can wander away from their place of work to then sexually assualt an arriving traveler or to steal a travelers $7,000 watch unseen by the the many other TSA screeners at the checkpoint.

An Eight Point Five Billion Dollar Per Year Operation that is almost universally despised by the public at large, a group who refuses to provide the public with guidelines of acceptable screening procedures, a group who ignores the law and federal court orders.

I suggest that should another group of 19 terrorist attempt another 9/11 type attack they would easily defeat TSA's security screeners once again causing great harm to our country.

America has been sold a bill of goods that is rotten to the core and it is named the Transportation Security Administration.

GSOLTSO said...

SSSS sez - "Is arbitrary rules with arbitrary enforcement a part of your layer cake of security?"

If you will recall, TSA attempted to change the rules about knives and some other items on the prohibited items list, and was met with several complaints from airline employees, and political members, which ended that process before it even went into effect.

Anon sez - "You think it would take MORE time to put everyone through the faster, less invasive level of screening? That's absurd. Just imagine the time ending the shoe carnival and belt nonsense ALONE would save."

I am just guessing, but I believe the above quote was taking into account doing the same level of background and clearance on every passenger on a daily basis (as opposed to the case by case basis that happens in PreCheck). I could be wrong, but that is the way I read it.

Catch sez - "Under what governmental authority are you claiming you have the right and knowledge to say, "all medication is allowed" through a TSA screening area?"

I can't speak for the anonymous poster, but the page for folks with disabilities and medical conditions is located here - www.tsa.gov/travel/special-procedures and that contains information about transporting medications.

Catch also sez - "West - why did the TSA blotter team allow this unsubstantiated claim on this government website?"

You mean why did I allow a comment by an anon or pseudo handle post a comment that has some possibly unverifiable information or opinion in it? Most likely because that is just about the only commentary we get.

As always, anyone posting under an anonymous handle, a chosen handle, their own name or name du jour is allowed to post what they wish to say (as long as they follow the guidelines, of course). These folks (to include you) are free to post without any fear of repercussion from us. We also like to see our posters be courteous to each other, however, that does not always seem to be the case from some of our posters.

West
TSA Blog Team

RB said...

As always, anyone posting under an anonymous handle, a chosen handle, their own name or name du jour is allowed to post what they wish to say (as long as they follow the guidelines, of course). These folks (to include you) are free to post without any fear of repercussion from us. We also like to see our posters be courteous to each other, however, that does not always seem to be the case from some of our posters. 
West
TSA Blog Team
September 13, 2015 at 9:06 AM
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Regarding bolded statement.

Absolutely a false statement.

I have had many comments censored by TSA, and I suspect by you directly West, that fully complied with the illegal posting guidelines.

How many times have you censored a certain TSA parody youtube clip that I have submitted multiple times?

I know that my comments are censored on a regular and routine basis and most times for no reason.

Dishonesty apparently is a required skill for TSA screeners and the TSA Blog Team.

Anonymous said...

West said:

You mean why did I allow a comment by an anon or pseudo handle post a comment that has some possibly unverifiable information or opinion in it? Most likely because that is just about the only commentary we get.

And, yet, when I refute your bold-loving intern by posting links to reputable sources showing MULTIPLE instances in which TSA employees have asserted that their (lack of) medical training outweighs the opinions of doctors AND THE POLICIES OF THE TSA, you don't post that.

Are you really so disingenuous as to post comments like this, West, and then wonder why the TSA has effectively zero credibility with the American public?

Susan Richart said...

West wrote:

"You mean why did I allow a comment by an anon or pseudo handle post a comment that has some possibly unverifiable information or opinion in it? Most likely because that is just about the only commentary we get."

"Possibly unverifiable information?" Give us a break! Are you telling us that neither you personally nor the TSA administration know that no where near 18 million people per day go through TSA checkpoints?

"Most likely because that is just about the only commentary we get."

Perhaps if questions were responded to, the quality of the dialog would be better.

Instead, you've just used TSA SOP and blamed others for the blog's lack of quality.

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

RB said...

GSOLTSO said...........

If you will recall, TSA attempted to change the rules about knives and some other items on the prohibited items list, and was met with several complaints from airline employees, and political members, which ended that process before it even went into effect.

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TSA had and still has the authority to change screening rules and policies but folded like a wet piece of paper on this matter.

Why is it that TSA refuses to listen to the public on other matters that have received overwhelming negative reception.

I have to wonder just who at TSA got paid off in the case of the small blade issues.

CatchTheLies said...

West said, " These folks (to include you) are free to post without any fear of repercussion from us."

West, you delete comments that meet blog policy. That is a repercussion from you, a government employee posting on a government website.

Intellectual Property said...

Bob, where did the plane photo and the tools photo come from? The plane photo's name looks like you downloaded it from Facebook, and there's no attribution as to who took and who owns the copyright.

The tools photo is called OKC+SAM_1875.jpg. Is this an official TSA photo? Who owns the copyright?

The other photo names indicate you downloaded them from Shutterstock, but it would be ethical and professional to list the origin and copyright owners of these photos.

Anonymous said...

West says:

I am just guessing, but I believe the above quote was taking into account doing the same level of background and clearance on every passenger on a daily basis (as opposed to the case by case basis that happens in PreCheck). I could be wrong, but that is the way I read it.

Well, yes, but the original poster was very obviously saying that the pre-check levels of GATE security are all that is necessary, not the background checks (which the TSA can't seem to properly carry out, anyway, both for Pre-Check members AND for airport employees). The idea being that we should return to something at least a little closer to the pre-9/11 security procedures, instead of the grotesque security theater that goes on nowadays.

I would argue that the "utter lack of reading comprehension"-meter is pointing more to the side of the TSA cheerleaders than the TSA critics in this particular case.

Anonymous said...

West, where is my reply to Bold TSApologist's excusing TSA's actions against flyers by her cry of "9/11! 9/11!"?

It met blog policy and should have been allowed.. Are you delaying its release or did you delete it?

Anonymous said...

Anyone who excuses the abuse of innocent people's rights, freedoms, property and privacy by summoning the ghosts of those killed fourteen years ago is sadly mistaken.

Anonymous said...

West, you know the difference between the American public's comments and the Bold TSApologist. We aren't acting like we are TSA employees. We don't act like we are speaking for the TSA. We don't claim to know 'super secret stuff' that only TSA employees allegedly know.

She constantly speaks FOR and AS the TSA on this blotter. You allow her to answer the public's questions FOR and AS the TSA.

You know this is happening, yet you allow her to do so. She is speaking for the TSA, despite your assertions that she does not. Your actions do not match your words.

Why do you allow this, West?

Anonymous said...

Bobby must be on vacation and no one else at TSA is able to put together the weekly report.

OR ----- the weekly roundup has been discontinued, finally. Is that too much to hope for?

Anonymous said...

one is legal, constitutional and non sexual in any way shape or form."

Really? A complete stranger forcing me to let them rub my genitals and stick their hands in my pants is not sexual in any way, shape, or form?

No over acting on your part huh?
Nobody "rubs" your junk, nobody "sticks their hands in your pants" If using the back of their hand 2 inches from your zipper line and putting fingers inside your wasteline is "sexual" you may need to see someone about it.

Anonymous said...

all medication is allowed. It may get tested, but no medication will be refused. Perhaps an officer made a mistake once and did not allow nitro pills to go, but they are absolutely allowed. But you knew that

September 9, 2015 at 1:55 PM
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Not true.

Clear Care products used to maintain contact lenses are not permitted.
sure they are. I take mine every time I travel. They just cannot be peroxide based (red cap)

GSOLTSO said...

Susan sez - ""Possibly unverifiable information?" Give us a break! Are you telling us that neither you personally nor the TSA administration know that no where near 18 million people per day go through TSA checkpoints?"

That was not the gist of what I was saying, I gave an all encompassing statement that we accept comments from anonymous or named individuals that contain information that may or may not be true. Read the original statement one more time " You mean why did I allow a comment by an anon or pseudo handle post a comment that has some possibly unverifiable information or opinion in it?"

It is a terrible sentence and I am sorry that I missed it while proofing. The sentence was actually supposed to be "You mean why did I allow an anon or pseudo named handle post comments that have possibly unverifiable information or opinion in it?".

Susan also sez - "Perhaps if questions were responded to, the quality of the dialog would be better.

Instead, you've just used TSA SOP and blamed others for the blog's lack of quality."

Wow, you read way to much into that. It was merely indicating that people that post for TSA, people that post against TSA and neutral people posting all include opinion or unverifiable information with great frequency.

RB sez - "TSA had and still has the authority to change screening rules and policies but folded like a wet piece of paper on this matter."

TSA does not have the ability to override the houses of Congress, which is what was in the brew if they pushed the issue. When confronted with Congressional members and legislative possibilities, TSA leadership made the most logical choice and did not make the proposed changes.

West
TSA Blog Team



Anonymous said...

Under what governmental authority are you claiming you have the right and knowledge to say, "all medication is allowed" through a TSA screening area?
tsa.tov Almost every question asked here can be answered on that site.

GSOLTSO said...

Anon sez - "West, you know the difference between the American public's comments and the Bold TSApologist."

Actually, I know nothing more about their comments than I know about yours. Both sets contain opinion and sometimes information that is not verifiable, both come from anonymous accounts - ergo, when both meet the posting guidelines, they are posted.

As indicated before, any information included in comments not from recognized Blog Team members are not considered the official opinion/position or carry the endorsement of TSA.

West
TSA blog Team

Anonymous said...

West, you know the difference between the American public's comments and the Bold TSApologist. We aren't acting like we are TSA employees. We don't act like we are speaking for the TSA. We don't claim to know 'super secret stuff' that only TSA employees allegedly know.

She constantly speaks FOR and AS the TSA on this blotter. You allow her to answer the public's questions FOR and AS the TSA.

You know this is happening, yet you allow her to do so. She is speaking for the TSA, despite your assertions that she does not. Your actions do not match your words.

Why do you allow this, West?

let me be perfectly clear on this. My responses in NO WAY represent the views opinions or policies of TSA. I IN NO WAY represent TSA and have NO authority to speak on their behalf.

Anonymous said...

Why do you post comments that appear to speak on behalf of TSA if the posters of those comments are not, in fact, authorized to do so?

Anonymous said...

just a little commentary on my part here. Many folks spend way to much time worrying about me. I, like you are a concerned citizen of this once great country. I happen to disagree with much of the OPINION posted on this site and I in turn post my OPINION on what is really going on. Some post about TSA officers being clerks, not officers. That is an opinion that happens to be false but I don't demand to know who you are nor do I call for Bob to delete your posting. Some suggest that all TSA officers are thieves and idiots. That again is an opinion that I will argue until the end of time. But I wont call for your removal. Some make claims that a one time incident is TSA policy. Clearly another opinion.
I am happy to see that hard work being done by underpaid over worked TSA officers is keeping our country safe. Many will disagree with that opinion. We are both right in our own minds. TSA officers in many cases make less than what is paid by welfare. TSA officers are tested each and every year on many different areas of their jobs. If they fail, they are fired. TSA officers work under very stressful conditions and are shown little appreciation for what they do. Are mistakes made, of course. Just like with any other job out there, mistakes are made. and like any business or profession, bad people hold official positions. Over all, TSA officers are honest hard working people like you and I and do their jobs to the best of their ability.
As stated many times before, to date, there have been no terror attacks attempted on an American based flight that we know of. But we have no way OF KNOWING IF THEY HAVE BEEN THWARTED BY tsa AND THE tsa policies. Had the 9/11 hijackers stopped the box cutters, nobody would have ever known that largest terror attack in history was stopped. For all we know, an even larger terror attack has been stopped by TSA. May one of those guns caught was intended on killing a flight attendant. we just don't know. Maybe a realistic replica grenade was intended on being used to divert an aircraft somewhere. We just don't know.
I will continue to defend the job TSA is doing. With facts as I know them and opinion based on what I believe to be true.
Have a wonderful day and thanks TSA for all you do.

Anonymous said...

Can anybody explain to me how a pie is allowed through security yet so many other liquids and gels are not? There has to be more than 3.4 oz of liquids or gels in a normal size pie. It seems wrong that someone can bring a pie but a 6 oz juice box is prohibited.

Anonymous said...

TSA does not have the ability to override the houses of Congress, which is what was in the brew...

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And yet, TSA has no problem lying to Congress and ignoring court orders. Funny, that.

RB said...

"TSA does not have the ability to override the houses of Congress, which is what was in the brew if they pushed the issue. When confronted with Congressional members and legislative possibilities, TSA leadership made the most logical choice and did not make the proposed changes.

West
TSA Blog Team


Was it? Name the bill that was proposed or on the floor.

RB said...

?As always, anyone posting under an anonymous handle, a chosen handle, their own name or name du jour is allowed to post what they wish to say (as long as they follow the guidelines, of course). These folks (to include you) are free to post without any fear of repercussion from us. We also like to see our posters be courteous to each other, however, that does not always seem to be the case from some of our posters.
West
TSA Blog Team
September 13, 2015 at 9:06 AM"

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"Regarding bolded statement.

Absolutely a false statement.

I have had many comments censored by TSA, and I suspect by you directly West, that fully complied with the illegal posting guidelines.

How many times have you censored a certain TSA parody youtube clip that I have submitted multiple times?

Posted by RB
September 13, 2015 at 10:00 AM

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Anyone notice that West did not dispute my claim of his or TSA's dishonesty nor did he address my specific remark of the TSA Pardoy YouTube video being censored multiple times?

If the words are from TSA those words are probably not the whole truth or even a little bit of the truth.

How many comments assert that the TSA Blog Team is censoring comments without cause?

Not only is censorship by the federal government and its employees a civil rights violation it is a federal crime chargeable in a court of law.

West you stand accused!

Susan Richart said...

Getting a bit testy, West, after being called out by several different posters?

SSSS for Some Reason said...

GSOLTSO said...
SSSS sez - "Is arbitrary rules with arbitrary enforcement a part of your layer cake of security?"

If you will recall, TSA attempted to change the rules about knives and some other items on the prohibited items list, and was met with several complaints from airline employees, and political members, which ended that process before it even went into effect.


I do recall that very thing. The Service Workers Union was, if I remember correctly, the loudest voice in the issue claiming the flight staff would be at greater risk from the passengers. I also recall asking the question of what are the staff doing in the first place that would make the travelling public want to hurt them?

And....

That little stroll down memory lane still doesn't answer the question of the TSA's arbitrary enforcement of rules being part of the layer cake of security. Why is my pocket knife prohibited but my knitting needles are not? I could kill someone much quicker with my knitting needles than I could with my little two-inch lock-back.

RB said...

GSOLTSO said...

Anon sez - "West, you know the difference between the American public's comments and the Bold TSApologist."

"Actually, I know nothing more about their comments than I know about yours. Both sets contain opinion and sometimes information that is not verifiable, both come from anonymous accounts - ergo, when both meet the posting guidelines, they are posted. As indicated before, any information included in comments not from recognized Blog Team members are not considered the official opinion/position or carry the endorsement of TSA."
WestTSA blog TeamSeptember 14, 2015 at 10:53 AM

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Exactly who are the recognized Blog Team members? When has Lynn or Bob last posted and you once alluded to others at TSA who had access to the TSA Blog, so who are they?

By not correcting posters like Bold Blotter it seems that TSA endorses those remarks.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Under what governmental authority are you claiming you have the right and knowledge to say, "all medication is allowed" through a TSA screening area?
tsa.tov Almost every question asked here can be answered on that site.

I went the link you indicated and didn't see an answer to the question about Liquids. You seen to know a lot so maybe you can answer..... why is 16 ounces in a soda bottle prohibited, but seven different 3 ounce bottles in a zippy bag acceptable?

Is it the zippy bag that renders the fluids safe? Or something else? Is it some sort of chemical combination of the smaller containers combined with the zippy bag?

Maybe you could answer why if the bottles of liquids over three ounces are to dangerous to go through security but aren't dangerous enough to do anything other than toss them in the regular rubbish bin?

If the tsa website can't answer these questions, maybe you can. And if not you mr Bold posting person, maybe you could recommend someone who can answer these questions because lots of people would like to know the answer.

Anonymous said...

I submitted a post that clearly called out the bold-posting TSApologist on the "medicines are always allowed to fly" issue-- linking to multiple verified instances in which TSOs felt that their WHOLE WEEK of super-rigorous training (and week-and-a-half of OJT!) made them more qualified as medical professionals than ACTUAL DOCTORS, and refused to allow people the use of medically-necessary liquids, medications, and supplies.

West and Bobby have censored it, despite the fact that it meets blog policy.

West and Bobby are unwilling to handle criticism based on FACTS, and prefer to live in their fantasy world where the TSA is "well-trained", "professional", and "held to the highest standards"-- despite the fact that TSOs fail at their only job function 19 times out of 20, are known for being short-fused and belligerent, and get away with misbehavior that would have a person FIRED from nearly any other organization in America.

Keep on fighting the good fight, West and Bobby! Who needs integrity to back up your ideas when you can just CENSOR opposing viewpoints and pretend that the verifiable and well-known about the TSA's utter failures simply don't exist?

Susan Richart said...

Bold Blotter person wrote: "I will continue to defend the job TSA is doing. With facts as I know them..."

A little time to do some research before posting should be a huge help to you and your "facts."

Susan Richart said...

He also wrote: "Had the 9/11 hijackers stopped the box cutters,....."

You also might review your writings before you submit them. And yes, we would have known because the FBI was already on to the group but, unfortunately 2+2 had not yet been put together and a specific warning was ignored. Again, fella, do some reading and gather some facts prior to posting.

Anonymous said...

West can't handle the heat of getting called out for failing spectacularly at his job, so he's being snippy, censoring valid comments, and refusing to engage on the issues.

He's a perfect TSA microcosm!

Anonymous said...

No reply, West?

Anonymous said...

Bold TSApologist, it is good to see you say again that you are not a TSA employee. Sadly, you will also continue posting as if you are a TSA employee.

You still have not said whether it is a friend or a family member of yours who works for the TSA. The one you insist is "over worked and underpaid." The I one you appear to speak for when you post as a TSA employee.

RB said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Bold TSApologist, it is good to see you say again that you are not a TSA employee. Sadly, you will also continue posting as if you are a TSA employee.

You still have not said whether it is a friend or a family member of yours who works for the TSA. The one you insist is "over worked and underpaid." The I one you appear to speak for when you post as a TSA employee.

September 16, 2015 at 2:34 AM
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I don't recall that it claimed not to be a TSA employee, just that it doesn't speak for TSA which seems to be in dispute.

Anonymous said...

Yes they can drink liquor from small bottles, Nick. It isn't about monitoring alcohol intake. It's about overpriced sales.

Anonymous said...

Previously, she claimed to not be a TSA employee. I can look up the specific comment if needed.

GSOLTSO said...

RB sez - "West you stand accused!"

I have been accused before, usually by folks that submit comments that violate the Blog guidelines. I hold to the published guidelines, have held to them and will keep doing so - if you have comments that are not being published, they are being deemed in violation of the posted blog guidelines.

Susan sez - "Getting a bit testy, West, after being called out by several different posters?"

Not even remotely. I am just tickled pink to be here and helping out! Please fire away, I am singularly content with my lot in life.

SSSS sez - "Why is my pocket knife prohibited but my knitting needles are not? I could kill someone much quicker with my knitting needles than I could with my little two-inch lock-back."

I have no answer for you other than one is deemed ok, the other is not. I was not around when they made those determinations, although knives have been prohibs for as long as I have been here. FWIW, I was in favor of the rules changes, but it appears that is not to be at this time.

RB sez - "Exactly who are the recognized Blog Team members? When has Lynn or Bob last posted and you once alluded to others at TSA who had access to the TSA Blog, so who are they?"

Currently, the Blog team lineup is Bob, Lynn and myself. The other folks that have access are determined by HQ, and most likely include folks that can access the account in case of emergency or in case the team needs something posted while one of the team members are unavailable. I can give you no list of folks, as I am at GSO, not HQ.

Anon sez - " He's a perfect TSA microcosm!"

Sweet! I got a perfect rating!

Anon sez - "No reply, West?"

Several of them, just read above.

West
TSA Blog Team

Anonymous said...

WEST, you did NOT reply to my questions of Sept 13 @ 11:23pm, so your casual quip above does not count.

Anonymous said...

West "sez" if you have comments that are not being published, they are being deemed in violation of the posted blog guidelines.

That is a lie, West. An out and out lie Comments by me and many taxpayers here were deleted despite the comments meeting blotter policy.

You may not like the truth about the TSA being posted on this government website, West, but you do not have the right to delete comments that meet blog policy.

Anonymous said...

West, several times you have deleted my comments, even though they met blog policy.

It is not correct that you only delay approving and delete comments because they don't meet blog policy.

I commented when the Bold Blotter Intern appeared to comment in two different styles in one post, asking for clarification.

My comment was deleted.

I followed up on the false association between the tragedy of 9/11/01 and the current practices of TSA screeners.

My comment was deleted.

I asked for further information on the Philly screening supervisor who had an innocent man falsely arrested.

My comment was deleted.

So many comments by so many people in the "TSA Kids" post.

So many deleted.

The list goes on and on, West.

No swearing. On topic. No mentioning of TSA employees by name (dumbest rule in the blotter policy).

You deleted my comments, West. Not for violating blog policy.

What's the real reason, West?