Friday, December 19, 2014

TSA Week in Review: 29 Loaded Firearms, Disassembled Firearm in a PlayStation 2, Sword Cane, and More



disassembled .22 caliber firearm
Disassembled .22 caliber firearm (JFK)
Artfully Concealed Prohibited Items – It’s important to examine your bags prior to traveling to ensure you are not carrying any prohibited items. If a prohibited item is discovered in your bag or on your body, you could be cited and possibly arrested by law enforcement. Here are a few examples from this week where prohibited items were found by our officers in strange places.

  • A disassembled .22 caliber firearm was discovered in a carry-on bag at the New York Kennedy (JFK) International Airport. Various components of the gun were found hidden inside a PlayStation 2 console and others were tucked alongside a tripod, and among the belongings of the traveler. TSA officers have detected more than 2,100 guns at airport checkpoints so far this calendar year.
  • A sword cane was discovered at Newark (EWR).
  • A six-inch knife was discovered concealed underneath the lining of a bag at Anchorage (ANC).
 
Gift Wrapped Knife (AUS)
Gift Wrapped Knife (AUS)
Gift Wrapped Knife - A five-inch knife was discovered in a gift wrapped package at Austin (AUS). This is just one example of why we don’t encourage wrapped gifts. We recommend waiting until you land to wrap them. If there’s something in the gift that needs to be inspected, we may have to open it. Instead of wrapping a gift you’re traveling with, you could use a gift bag instead. 

Inert Ordnance and Grenades etc. – We continue to find inert grenades and other weaponry on a weekly basis. Please keep in mind that if an item looks like a real bomb, grenade, mine, etc., it is prohibited. When these items are found at a checkpoint or in checked baggage, they can cause significant delays because the explosives detection professionals must respond to resolve the alarm. Even if they are novelty items, you are prohibited from bringing them on the aircraft.  Read here on why inert items cause problems.

  • A WWII era military blasting machine was discovered in a checked bag at Atlanta (ATL).
  • An inert grenade was discovered in a carry-on bag at Denver (DEN).
WWII Blasting Machine (ATL)
WWII Blasting Machine (ATL)
Miscellaneous Prohibited Items In addition to all of the other prohibited items we find weekly, our officers also regularly find firearm components, realistic replica firearms, bb and pellet guns, airsoft guns, brass knuckles, ammunition, batons and many other prohibited items too numerous to note.
 
Large cake knife (ORD)
Large cake knife (ORD)
Stun Guns – 12 stun guns were discovered in carry-on bags this week at Anchorage (ANC), Buffalo (BUF), Burlington (BTV), Colorado Springs (COS), Denver (DEN), Myrtle Beach (MYR), Ontario (ONT), Las Vegas (LAS), Rapid City (RAP), San Diego (SAN), San Jose (SJC), and St. Louis (STL).
Loaded firearm discovered in carry-on bag at (HOU).
 34 Firearms Discovered This Week Of the 34 firearms, 29 were loaded and 13 had rounds chambered.
 
Clockwise from top left, firearms discovered at: AMA, BNA, JAN, LBB & MCO
Clockwise from top left, firearms discovered at: AMA, BNA, JAN, LBB & MCO
Clockwise from top left, firearms discovered at: MCI, MIA & MCI
Clockwise from top left, firearms discovered at: MCI, MIA & MCI
Top to bottom, firearms discovered at: ABQ & BNA
Top to bottom, firearms discovered at: ABQ & BNA
Ammunition – When packed properly, ammunition can be transported in your checked baggage, but it is never permissible to pack ammo in your carry-on bag.

*In order to provide a timely weekly update, this data is compiled from a preliminary report. The year-end numbers will vary slightly from what is reported in the weekly updates. However, any monthly, midyear or end-of-year numbers TSA provides on this blog or elsewhere will be actual numbers and not estimates. 

You can travel with your firearms in checked baggage, but they must first be declared to the airline. You can go here for more details on how to properly travel with your firearms. Firearm possession laws vary by state and locality. Travelers should familiarize themselves with state and local firearm laws for each point of travel prior to departure. 

Unfortunately these sorts of occurrences are all too frequent which is why we talk about these finds. Sure, it’s great to share the things that our officers are finding, but at the same time, each time we find a dangerous item, the line is slowed down and a passenger that likely had no ill intent ends up with a citation or in some cases is even arrested. The passenger can face a penalty as high as $7,500. This is a friendly reminder to please leave these items at home. Just because we find a prohibited item on an individual does not mean they had bad intentions, that's for the law enforcement officer to decide. In many cases, people simply forgot they had these items.

If you haven’t seen it yet, make sure you check out our TSA Blog Year in Review for 2013. You can also check out 2011 & 2012 as well. 

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Bob Burns
TSA Blog Team 

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75 comments:

Anonymous said...

Bob, can you please sort the list by airport, rather than date? That is much more useful, thanks.

Anonymous said...

It's hard to believe that people are still trying to bring guns onto an airplane. How many times have we all been told that this is a no-no. What is wrong with people.?

Susa Richart said...

Nice going, TSA, taking a knife designed to cut a family's Christmas pudding. Hopefully, the screener who took it will be feeling real pangs of guilt for being Scrooge.

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

madeline said...

this cake knife was probably mean't to be a gift

too bad the present will never get to the person it was intended for

SSSS for Some Reason said...

"...A WWII era military blasting machine was discovered in a checked bag at Atlanta (ATL)."

Neat historical item. Not quite like the lever box we all saw the Coyote use to set off the TNT to catch the Road Runner.

The real question.... Was it allowed to fly?

If not, why not?

Chris Boyce said...

No drugs again??? Third week in a row!

Anonymous said...

As always, absolutely nothing you needed your slow, invasive, and ineffective naked body scanners to detect. Meanwhile, how many people suffered physical searches thanks to false alarms on these useless machines?

Why are Curtis Burns and West Cooper unwilling to address, let alone answer, that question?

How many weeks has it been since you last trumpeted something dangerous you found with the naked body scanners?

kevinran said...

No one knows what it was intended for, they have the option to mail it!!!

Anonymous said...

Susa said, "Hopefully, the screener who took it will be feeling real pangs of guilt for being Scrooge."

A) How do you know the intended use ..."Christmas pudding"
B) It is prohibited….TSA should allow knives on planes because it’s the holidays?
C) Know the rules before packing.

RB said...

I fail to see why the WW2 Blasting Machine was a problem. It's only a hand held generator that is harmless on its on. Some emergency radios and flashlights use the same type of technology. Are the banned by TSA? Are batteries banned by TSA?

Good job TSA, confiscating a piece of history.

Anonymous said...

At least three of the photos of firearms used this week have been used before.

You obviously have access to camera's at the check point so why do you find it necessary to reuse photos from earlier posts?

SSSS for Some Reason said...

"...Anonymous said...What is wrong with people.?"

Based on the lack of arrests of 'these people' I am going to say nothing is wrong with them. If there was something wrong, if they had even the slightest bit of ill-intent, we would have far more stories of arrests at airports.

What is wrong with you that you think people who own firearms are somehow a problem?

Anonymous said...

Why does the TSA Blog continue to trumpet the confiscation of a minuscule number of guns and other weapons (found using metal detectors, not naked body scanners) when the TSA chief said in November that looking for guns at the checkpoint is a "distraction"?

The article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/2014/11/04/tsa-airport-executives-john-pistole-aaae/18453109/

@SkyWayManAz said...

I'm curious if Bob or West would care to comment on something I observed on a recent trip. I've noticed at times airport employees are directed into the TSA Pre Check line. I didn't think that would be a problem because they're familiar with TSA policies. In this case it seems your screener was the one not familiar with them instead. A non-uniformed airport employee in front of me was attempting to show the document checker his credentials but the screener insisted he produce a boarding pass. He stated multiple times he was an airport employee while your screener kept demanding a boarding pass, insisted he couldn't pass without one, and raised his voice to repeat this every time the man said he was an airport employee. After 5-6 times of this back and forth either your screener actually listened to the man or the light bulb in his brain finally switched on. He cleared him to pass without having to follow up with another screener so it would seem the problem wasn’t with his credentials. The issue was your screener was arrogant and belligerent to this gentleman. He refused to listen to what he was being told to him and raised his voice to publicly shame the man instead. I'll assume he's new but that was unacceptable behavior for any passenger to witness. Such an exchange only serves to reinforce the stereotype of how foolish and petty TSA can be.

Paul C-NY said...

I noticed the first item highlighted is the 22lr Pistol that was dissasembled and stowed in a SONY Playstation at JFK, but JFK does not show up in the tally that is below. Does a dissasembled pistol get a different designation?

S. Mann said...

About the cake knife, next time pack the item in checked baggage. Use your head this is not a new policy in place folks. It has been well over a decade since 9-11and this should be understood by now. People start taking responsibility for your actions and stop blaming the TSA. TSA wants you all to arrive to your destination safely.

Anonymous said...

Susa Richart said...
Nice going, TSA, taking a knife designed to cut a family's Christmas pudding. Hopefully, the screener who took it will be feeling real pangs of guilt for being Scrooge.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


And I bet you would be the first one to complain when you got your neck slit.

Billy Wills said...

I think the TSA does a great job! Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays & Happy New Year to all TSA Employees! Keep up the good work and blow off the idiot comments. This country is definitely a better and safer place thanks to the work you do and the crap you take day after day. Thank you, thank you and thank you!

Anonymous said...

Yes folks,you should all know by now... Please transport properly packaged knives,machetes,firearms and ammunition in your checked baggage (per TSA directives)and not through the checkpoints. This causes additional paperwork and unnecessary lines and travel delays.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/delta-worker-allegedly-helped-smuggle-guns-planes-n273501

We'll read in next week's blog how you stopped these 18 guns from getting on a flight, right?

Oh wait, the TSA did not stop these guns from getting on a plane because numerous airport workers are not screened.

What if it was a bomb that the baggage handler had helped smuggle on-board?

Of course this blog will remain silent on this potentially catastrophic loophole.

Anonymous said...

Delta needs to step up and permanently invalidate the buddy pass the smuggler's mother let him use. These smugglers need to do hard time for a long time. Congratulations go to the public employees who caught up with these criminals.

Anonymous said...

Congratulations go to the public employees who caught these smuggling criminals. Delta needs to step up and permanently invalidate the buddy pass that the smuggler's mom lent to her criminal son. Both these smugglers need to do hard time for a long time.

Susan Richart said...

Thanks for posting this link:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/delta-worker-allegedly-helped-smuggle-guns-planes-n273501

From the article:

"The breach is one of the biggest security breaches in recent years, according to affidavit details."

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

Stella Star said...

Cake knives are not a threat to aviation safety. No one with a dull cake knife is going to get into a locked cockpit with it. The TSA is not responsible for keeping every individual person getting into a plane from any possible harm. They are not law enforcement, nor your personal body guard. Their only mission is to keep items that could ACTUALLY be used to take down a plane from getting on board.

Too bad TSA failed to be realistic in their list of SCARY! items.

If you're scared of a dull cake knife, how do you get on planes knowing they are full of screwdrivers, scissors, knitting needles, corkscrews, glass, metal butter knives, etc.?

RB said...

Susan Richart said...
Thanks for posting this link:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/delta-worker-allegedly-helped-smuggle-guns-planes-n273501

From the article:

"The breach is one of the biggest security breaches in recent years, according to affidavit details."

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

December 23, 2014 at 6:56 AM

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Airport workers entering through employee access doors where TSA refuses to do its duty and screen airport workers.

Then handguns passed off to a accomplice passenger who took the loaded guns into the passenger cabin of the airplane.

Looks like a 100% TSA FAIL to me.

So who in TSA will be held accountable for a failed security plan?


Anonymous said...

Just wondering if Blogger Bob will count the 18 guns TSA didn't find at ATL this week?


Anonymous said...

SSSS said,"What is wrong with you that you think people who own firearms are somehow a problem?"

If people bring a loaded firearm to an airport checkpoint, it's safe to question their judgement in even owning a deadly weapon.

Susan Richart said...

"Brooklyn District Attorney Kenneth Thompson said Tuesday that the investigation was "deeply troubling" -- not only for the havoc the gun running unleashed on the streets but because of the vulnerability to acts of terrorism on air travel that it revealed.

If they can put guns on the plane this time," he told reporters, "they could have easily put a bomb on one of those planes."...

"We have an egregious breach of security" at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport because airport employees "are not required to go through screening," said Thompson...

In total, 153 guns were recovered as part of a complex investigation that Thompson outlined by using charts and surveillance video during a press conference in New York."

Anonymous said...

I am so greatful for TSA having keen.vision in spoting firearms knives etc.Everyone should understand and cooperate with.the rules and Regulations TSA has. Unless your an air Marshall with credentials.Leave your weapins homes.Out if sight out of mind peace if mind.

SSSS for Some Reason said...

Anonymous said...
SSSS said,"What is wrong with you that you think people who own firearms are somehow a problem?"

If people bring a loaded firearm to an airport checkpoint, it's safe to question their judgement in even owning a deadly weapon.

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Strange that those same people manage to carry their firearm everywhere else and not cause problems. The supermarket, the library, the gas station..... They could be right beside you traffic. Right now!

Maybe it isn't the firearm that is the problem. Maybe it isn't the people who carry them that are the problem.

Anonymous said...

kevinran said...
No one knows what it was intended for, they have the option to mail it!!!

If that is the case then we shouldn't allow anyone to bring anything on an aircraft. How do we know what they intend to do with it?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Susa Richart said...
Nice going, TSA, taking a knife designed to cut a family's Christmas pudding. Hopefully, the screener who took it will be feeling real pangs of guilt for being Scrooge.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


And I bet you would be the first one to complain when you got your neck slit.

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With a cake knife? What an absurd idea!

OMG! He's coming right at me! And he has a..... CAKE KNIFE! I better sit down, this might take him a few minutes to kill me with this incredibly dull kitchen utensil. In fact, I think I will take a nap while he tries to cut me, can someone wake me when he finally draws blood?

SSSS for Some Reason said...

Anonymous said...Everyone should understand and cooperate with.the rules and Regulations TSA has

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That is really hard to do when the TSA won't tell you what the regulations are because they are SSI.

Even harder still when the TSA agent at the gate can make up rules at any time and then stop you from flying when you question them and their self-appointed authority.

Remember, liquids are safe if you break them up into 3 ounce bottles. They only become dangerous when you leave them in their original 16 ounce container.

Anonymous said...

Their only mission is to keep items that could ACTUALLY be used to take down a plane from getting on board.
one should really have proper information before posting falsehoods.TSA's mission among other things is to insure safe travel. Nowhere is it said that their purpose is to keep ACTUAL threat items that could take down a plane, off the plane. There is more to protecting air travel. The passengers , the flight crew and cargo must all be protected. A plane with 300 passengers all killed in flight is just as tragic as a plane with 300 passengers craching into a feild. In otherwords, the cockpit does not have to be breached to be an effective terrorist action.Why is the public so nieve?

Agrippa said...

What kind of airport security allows airport employees to enter secured areas with backpacks full of guns?

TSA Airport Security!

SoCal said...

TSA, as 2014 comes to a close, I would like to reflect on the year and thank you for a job well done. In the year following the tragic murder of one of your own, you for the most part have maintained professionalism and done your job. As with any profession, including the chosen careers of those who criticize you most here and elsewhere, there are bad apples. However some seem to forget that. They also forget you are human. Whether or not I agree with every one of your policies is not important. I choose to fly therefore I am willing to follow the rules. Out of respect for my fellow traveler, if nothing else I will respect the rules so they can feel safe. I am not going to jump on a bandwagon and lump all officers in with the bad officers as I am smart enough to know the bad are an extreme minority. I know that about 25% of your officers are retired military. I know a percentage is retired law enforcement. I know about 99% of your officers are good hard working people who take their jobs serious and believe in what they do. If I have criticism, it will be directed at the policy, not the officer.
That said, thanks again for another year of keeping American travelers safe from potential threats. Notice I didn’t say “threats”, I said potential as I believe your mere presence will make any terror group think twice about attempting an attack for fear of getting caught. Will you catch every terrorist who attempts to circumvent your processes? Maybe not, but I know even if there is a 50% chance, terrorist won’t take that risk and for that, I say you’re doing a fine job. Detouring is every bit as good as prevention.
As you spent the holidays with your families, there will be sceptics. A few of them post here. Rest assured, there are people in their chosen profession who are questioned about their performance every day as well. They have their critics and they very well could be the source of the criticism they receive. As long as you do your job to the best of your ability, you don’t need to answer to them or be concerned with their complaints as they will never be happy. When one is unhappy with others, it is usually because they are unhappy with themselves.
Continue to do your job, thanks for all you do and thanks for keeping American travelers safe as they travel this holiday season.

Anonymous said...

Susa Richart said...
Nice going, TSA, taking a knife designed to cut a family's Christmas pudding. Hopefully, the screener who took it will be feeling real pangs of guilt for being Scrooge.

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

December 19, 2014 at 8:38 PM

madeline said...
this cake knife was probably mean't to be a gift

too bad the present will never get to the person it was intended for

December 19, 2014 at 9:04 PM
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Too bad people can't follow 12 year old rules.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Susa Richart said...
Nice going, TSA, taking a knife designed to cut a family's Christmas pudding. Hopefully, the screener who took it will be feeling real pangs of guilt for being Scrooge.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


And I bet you would be the first one to complain when you got your neck slit.

December 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM
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Actually, it would be more like "gurgle....gurgle.... TSA's fault.... gurgle"

Anonymous said...

December 23, 2014 at 3:19 PM

RB said...
Susan Richart said...
Thanks for posting this link:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/delta-worker-allegedly-helped-smuggle-guns-planes-n273501

From the article:

"The breach is one of the biggest security breaches in recent years, according to affidavit details."

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

December 23, 2014 at 6:56 AM

...................
Airport workers entering through employee access doors where TSA refuses to do its duty and screen airport workers.

Then handguns passed off to a accomplice passenger who took the loaded guns into the passenger cabin of the airplane.

Looks like a 100% TSA FAIL to me.

So who in TSA will be held accountable for a failed security plan?

December 23, 2014 at 3:37 PM
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Uh, the answer would be Congress and the Airline Unions. THEY decided TSA wouldn't screen crew/employees.
And I'd love to see how slow airline travel would really be if every single employee had to be screened every time they transited the secure area. You do realize that amts to literally thousands of passes a day at a cat X airport right?
Or do you enjoy getting to the airport 4 hours in advance of your flight?

RB said...

Anonymous said...
I am so greatful for TSA having keen.vision in spoting firearms knives etc.Everyone should understand and cooperate with.the rules and Regulations TSA has. Unless your an air Marshall with credentials.Leave your weapins homes.Out if sight out of mind peace if mind.

December 23, 2014 at 10:53 PM
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Maybe TSA could use those keen eyes down in Atlanta instead of letting an airport worker waltz right in with 29 guns in a backpack that then get transferred and carried on by a passenger.

This incident should bring an immediate halt to unscreened airport employees.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Just wondering if Blogger Bob will count the 18 guns TSA didn't find at ATL this week?

December 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM
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Why? They didnt go through screening. If you want all employees screened pettition congress and the airline unions.
And be prepared to stand in line for three hours prior to your flight.

Anonymous said...

Susa Richart said...
Nice going, TSA, taking a knife designed to cut a family's Christmas pudding. Hopefully, the screener who took it will be feeling real pangs of guilt for being Scrooge.

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

December 19, 2014 at 8:38 PM

madeline said...
this cake knife was probably mean't to be a gift

too bad the present will never get to the person it was intended for

December 19, 2014 at 9:04 PM
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You mean the long sharp knife with the serrated blade that was in the photo that looks like you could cut through tree branches with it?
I do hope that screener feels good about themselves because they caught a prohibited item. Thats only been prohibited for 12 years. You'd be the first one screaming about TSA if this person pulled it out on the flight and said look what TSA missed.

Anonymous said...

madeline said...
this cake knife was probably mean't to be a gift

too bad the present will never get to the person it was intended for

December 19, 2014 at 9:04 PM
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Too bad people can't read signs.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
At least three of the photos of firearms used this week have been used before.

You obviously have access to camera's at the check point so why do you find it necessary to reuse photos from earlier posts?

December 21, 2014 at 3:35 PM
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Why not use a representative picture?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
SSSS said,"What is wrong with you that you think people who own firearms are somehow a problem?"

If people bring a loaded firearm to an airport checkpoint, it's safe to question their judgement in even owning a deadly weapon.

December 23, 2014 at 6:14 PM
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Exactly.
It's called "Responsible Firearm Ownership".

john said...

cake knifes are not meant for gifts :P

Ty said...

Amongst the many comments made and approved by the same TSAnonymous, he/she said, "You'd be the first one screaming about TSA if this person pulled it out on the flight and said look what TSA missed.

December 24, 2014 at 5:04 PM"

So you ended your Christmas Eve work day by attacking critics of the TSA and making straw man arguments. Lame Those who disagree with the TSA will not suddenly change their minds and think the TSA is awesome just because something bad happens.

So who are you, anonymous TSA employee, since you spend so much of your (work?)time commenting on this blog? Are you the same one who thinks calling commenters former TSA employees is the ultimate insult?

Do you approve your own comments?

SSSS for Some Reason said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Just wondering if Blogger Bob will count the 18 guns TSA didn't find at ATL this week?

December 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM
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Why? They didnt go through screening. If you want all employees screened pettition congress and the airline unions.
And be prepared to stand in line for three hours prior to your flight.


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No, we are petitioning our Congress to remove TSA from the airports in an attempt to improve security.

And the firearm smuggling incident is just the proof we need to make our case.

First, TSA obviously can't handle securing air travel because the firearms smuggling had been going on long enough to attract the attention of some Law Enforcement Agencies (you know, the real police). That means two things... first, firearms on aircraft are not inherently dangerous. And two, TSA can't or won't do anything other than put on a good show of taking away belt buckles that look like cartoon ray guns.

Second, If TSA is trying to secure air travel then why would they ever accept pushback from a group like an employees union? If a Union has the power to block your services then how many other groups that haven't been mentioned have also done the same? How many holes are in your 'layers' of security?

Third, TSA should have never gotten into the business of providing the security guards at the check points. You have accepted all of the liability and have yet to mitigate any of the risk.

The solution really is quite simple.

Get rid of the TSA.

Redesign the TSA to be more like the FAA. You can write the standards, provide the testing and certifications for the companies (the airlines and airports) that will provide the actual security of the aircraft and the travellers within.

This solution will not cost 8 billion dollars of taxpayer money per year.

This solution will not violate any of our Constitutionally Protected Rights.

This solution will provide real and genuine security to the travelling public.

Remember, September 11 was not a failure of security, it was a failure of policy. That policy has been changed and changed in such a way that there will not be another September 11th incident in this country.

RB said...

-----------------------------Uh, the answer would be Congress and the Airline Unions. THEY decided TSA wouldn't screen crew/employees.And I'd love to see how slow airline travel would really be if every single employee had to be screened every time they transited the secure area. You do realize that amts to literally thousands of passes a day at a cat X airport right?Or do you enjoy getting to the airport 4 hours in advance of your flight?December 24, 2014 at 2:24 PM
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Congress gave TSA resposibility for aviation security, its called the "Aviation and Transportation Security Act". TSA has failed in its responsibilities that were assigned by Congress under the act.

The airlines are also following TSA security directives or TSA approved directives so it looks like a double fail for TSA.

As far as 4 hour long waits that is just fearmongering. TSA does not effectively deploy its manpower as evidenced by the excessive TSA clerks standing around checkpoints, worthless (per GAO) BDO's, and things like random gate checks which do not improve security.

TSA is an $8 Billion Annual Dollar failure.

Anonymous said...

"...A WWII era military blasting machine was discovered in a checked bag at Atlanta (ATL)."

Was it allowed to fly?

If not, why not?

Anonymous said...

"A plane with 300 passengers all killed in flight is just as tragic as a plane with 300 passengers craching into a feild."

According to http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_03.pdf (Table 10):

1,770 people died of water, air, and unspecified transport accidents in the US in 2011 (all ages)
35,303 people died of motor vehicle accidents in the US 2011 (all ages)

By your reasoning, the latter is more tragic. So why does TSA and its $8 billion annual budget focus on air travel when there is obviously a lot of improvement yet to be made in motor vehicle safety alone?

If you are savvy enough to ask about fatality rates, here's what Table 11 from the above link includes:

0.6 fatalities due to water, air, and unspecified transport accidents per 100,000 population (all ages)
11.3 fatalities due to motor vehicle accidents per 100,000 population (all ages)

The significantly higher motor vehicle fatality rate only supports my point that money spent on TSA under the guise of improving safety is money that could have been spent on bigger safety problems more effectively.

More facts from Table 11:

12.7 fatalities due to suicide per 100,000 population (all ages)
5.2 fatalities due to homicide per 100,000 population (all ages)

That would suggest that the average American presents more of a danger to than to other people. Is safety-focused TSA aware of this?

Anonymous said...

"And I bet you would be the first one to complain when you got your neck slit."

So you have run out of facts to support your statements and turn to fearmongering nonsense?

Anonymous said...

"And I'd love to see how slow airline travel would really be if every single employee had to be screened every time they transited the secure area.... Or do you enjoy getting to the airport 4 hours in advance of your flight?"

But it's for SAFETY! Shouldn't we do ANYTHING for safety? We've already recognized that safety is more important than the law of the land (the Constitution, you know), so what's a a bit more delay to make 100000000000% sure we are safe during our air travels?

TSORon said...

Susa Richart said...
[[Nice going, TSA, taking a knife designed to cut a family's Christmas pudding. Hopefully, the screener who took it will be feeling real pangs of guilt for being Scrooge.

screen shot/DHS OIG statement]]

Interestingly enough "Susa" (love them typo's, dont you?) knives of any length are prohibited at the screening checkpoint. Their purpose is not a part of the equation, nor should it be (9/11 – box cutters). There are multiple signs, overhead PA notices, web sites, and more than 10 years of history of the rules. TSA is in the news almost weekly, both national and local, people know what we do. Yet they still come to the checkpoints without thinking about what is in their bags, as evidenced by this very blog. We don’t know who does this intentionally, or if, but we have to process every one like it was a real weapon, which it is. No one feels like a “Scrooge” when they find someone else breaking the rules.

TSORon said...

Anonymous said...
[[Why does the TSA Blog continue to trumpet the confiscation of a minuscule number of guns and other weapons (found using metal detectors, not naked body scanners) when the TSA chief said in November that looking for guns at the checkpoint is a "distraction"?]]

To be honest with you Anon, the vast majority of the firearms discovered are not discovered via metal detectors. We find them using x-ray machines. As for what Mr. Pistole said, I agree. Yet funny enough taking one through the TSA checkpoint is still against the law. Are you suggesting that we ignore those who try to bring their firearm on board an aircraft? While we do not find these folks on terrorist watch lists, who is to say that the next one won’t be? If we tell the world that we no longer care about those who wish to bring guns on board aircraft, how long do you think it will be before an actual terrorist gives it a try? Yep, they are a distraction, and I wish firearm owners would stop bringing them to the checkpoints, but somehow I don’t think they are listening.

Susan Richart said...

Ronnie, guns have always been prohibited on aircraft so your "argument" was wasted effort. (Actually, someplace I read that pre-TSA more guns were found a checkpoints.)

You did, however, fail to address the question asked, which was "why does the blog continue to focus on the firearms found at checkpoints in light of Pistole's comment that they are a 'distraction'?"

As for your first comment, I guess you are a bit challenged by sarcasm, but I do still feel the screener who took the gifts feels like Scrooge.

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Don O'Flyin said...

Ron, trotting out the use box cutters on 9/1/01 is part of the same pathetic claim screamed by your co-workers, especially Lisa @tsamedia_lisaf. (Would this comment be deleted if I mentioned her last name, West?) Any time someone calls TSA on one of their stupid rules (NOT laws), TSA cries, "9/11!! 9/11!!"

Another 9/11 style hijacking will not occur in the US because cockpit doors are locked and reinforced, and passengers/crew will not comply.

Deal with this current reality, not abusing tragic deaths from over 13 years ago.

Your bosses know dull cake knives and pocketknives are not a threat to aviation safety. They even tried to allow pocketknives. Too bad the flight attendants' union screamed in fear...or more like screamed for some private agenda.

SSSS for Some Reason said...

TSORon said.If we tell the world that we no longer care about those who wish to bring guns on board aircraft, how long do you think it will be before an actual terrorist gives it a try?

Longer than you would think.

Terrorists want to terrorize, that is why they are called terrorists.

You can't terrorize a group of people who have the ability, and are willing to fight back.

Very few terrorists (there are so few already) are going to try and 'do something' to an aircraft if there is an understanding that one or more people on board are going to be able to shoot back.

And then to the simple facts..... the recent smuggling incident makes a good case for firearms on the aircraft. The smuggler in that case, on multiple occasions, took multiple firearms inside the cabin of an aircraft. Some of those firearms were even loaded! OMG! The tools are unimportant, the craftsman wielding the tools makes all the difference. Or more specifically, guns don't kill, people do.

Anonymous said...

"Are you suggesting that we ignore those who try to bring their firearm on board an aircraft? While we do not find these folks on terrorist watch lists, who is to say that the next one won’t be?"

That's a straw man argument. I suggested no such thing. What I said is that TSA needs stop filling this blog with photos of guns, knives, etc. in an attempt to scare the public into compliance.

Speaking of finding terrorists, when is TSA (or DHS) going to share risk assessments to justify TSA policies and procedures and the associated encroachments on civil liberties? When is TSA going to respond to the 5,000+ public comments on TSA's Notice of Proposed Rulemaking for Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT)? Why does TSA keep deploying AIT when the public comments have yet to be addressed?

Thanks for the correction on metal detectors and the baggage x-rays. I meant to include the baggage x-rays in there.

TSORon said...

Susan Richart said...
[[Ronnie, guns have always been prohibited on aircraft so your "argument" was wasted effort. (Actually, someplace I read that pre-TSA more guns were found a checkpoints.) ]]

Actually Suzzie, they didn’t become prohibited items until the late 1960’s. I’d take the effort to point out the law that actually did prohibit them but I’d be wasting my time and know it. You are not prepared to deal with facts yet.

Why do they continue to “focus on firearms”? Well, again, they don’t. It’s a part of the blog, but there are many other things discovered as well and become a part of each post. Knives, tasers, swords, grenades (replica and real), explosives (inert and not), all kinds of things. I seem to remember a post about a monkey head being found a while back. Its all about educating the public (of which you are a part), and I think Wes and Bob do a pretty good job.

TSORon said...

Don O'Flyin said...
[[Ron, trotting out the use box cutters on 9/1/01 is part of the same pathetic claim screamed by your co-workers]]

History can be a learning tool, wouldn’t you agree?

[[Another 9/11 style hijacking will not occur in the US because cockpit doors are locked and reinforced, and passengers/crew will not comply.]]

Impossible? No. Improbable? Yes. Yet TSA knows where the true threat vector is, and very few here can say that.

[[Too bad the flight attendants' union screamed in fear...or more like screamed for some private agenda.]]

Then take it up with them! Why bring your complaint here if you know someone else is responsible?

TSORon said...

SSSS for Some Reason said...
[[Longer than you would think.]]

May I borrow your crystal ball?

Anonymous said...
[[That's a straw man argument. I suggested no such thing.]]

Hmm, I asked a question, I didn’t argue anything.

[[Thanks for the correction on metal detectors and the baggage x-rays. I meant to include the baggage x-rays in there.]]

Yer welcome. Accuracy is important, don’t you think?

Susan Richart said...

Actually, Ronnie, it was 1958 when JFK signed legislation prohibiting dangerous weapons on aircraft. You weren't even born then.

BTW, do you have OCPD?

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OverSite said...

Wow, you on vacation TSSRon? Or are you making these insulting comments that violate blog policy on work time? Are you using a work device to make these comments, TSSRon?

Sandra said...

@OverSite: he's already been caught posting from a DHS computer.

OverSite said...

@Sandra Thank you for the information!

TSORon said...

OverSite said...
[[Wow, you on vacation TSSRon? Or are you making these insulting comments that violate blog policy on work time? Are you using a work device to make these comments, TSSRon?]]

Actually, its TSORon, but thanks for the promotion.

If I had said anything insulting the blog team would have deleted the post, I have had a few deleted in the past. I provide facts, something quite rare from the other commenters here. If you feel they are insults then might I suggest you look at your motivations for doing so?

TSORon said...

Sandra said...
[[@OverSite: he's already been caught posting from a DHS computer.]]

Caught? As if it is something illegal or in violation of some policy? I think not. Thats just silly.

Anonymous said...

TSSRon, you keep lying and abusing the American public on this blotter, yet your comments are approved. Which blotter team member approves them?

Ron? West? Bob? Lynn? Someone else?

Speak up. The taxpaying citizenry can't hear you.

Anonymous said...

TSORon said...

"Caught? As if it is something illegal or in violation of some policy? I think not. Thats just silly."

If you are, indeed, posting from a gov't computer, I would suggest a re-read of the Acceptable Use Policy.

Anonymous said...

100% inspection will never catch 100% of defects. So what about all those loaded guns that went undetected? Why aren't we hearing about the mass murders and hijacking?

TSORon said...

Anonymous said...
[[TSSRon, you keep lying and abusing the American public on this blotter, yet your comments are approved. Which blotter team member approves them?]]

Lying? Please show me where I have lied to the “taxpaying citizenry”. You are certainly not the first to make such a claim, and wont be the last. OTOH, they have been universally incorrect and I have not. I may not always be 100% right, but I never lie here. Why would I? The facts are much more fun.

Anonymous said...

Ron, Why do you put "taxpaying citizenry" in quotes like that? Are you saying American citizens, especially those who criticize the TSA, don't pay taxes? Or just those who don't swallow your proclamations hook, line, and sinker?

I'm glad to see the small concession from you that you aren't always "100% right." That is some progress.

What's funny is your interpretation of history, law, the Constitution, TSA rules, and other "facts" as has been pointed out time and again.

And you still haven't answered whether you are commenting to this government website from a government computer and/or while during TSA work hours. Just the fun facts, Ron.

West, the earlier comment was also addressed to you and the other blotter team members. Why are you so silent?

AirRifle said...

No drugs again??? Third week in a row!

Jonson richard said...

TSA is doing a great job here, you should give them some respect instead of whining. Keep up the good work. Thank you so much.