Friday, October 31, 2014

TSA Week in Review - 34 Loaded Firearms, Cane Sword, and Other Interesting Items Discovered This Week




discovered loaded firearm
Loaded firearm discovered at TUS.

41 Firearms Discovered This Week – Of the 41 firearms, 34 were loaded and 10 had rounds chambered.



Inert Ordnance and Grenades etc. – We continue to find inert grenades and other weaponry on a weekly basis. Please keep in mind that if an item looks like a real bomb, grenade, mine, etc., it is prohibited. When these items are found at a checkpoint or in checked baggage, they can cause significant delays because the explosives detection professionals must resolve the alarm to determine the level of threat. Even if they are novelty items, you cannot bring them on a plane.  Read here on why inert items cause problems.

  • Four inert/realistic replica grenades were discovered in carry-on bags this week at Des Moines (DSM), Springfield (SGF), New Orleans (MSY) and Atlanta (ATL).
  • An M18A1 mine kit with wires, two blasting cap initiators, and no mines was discovered in a checked bag at Honolulu (HNL).
discovered inert replica grenades
(L-R) Grenade (ATL), Grenade E-Cig (DSM), Novelty Grenade (MSY), Mine Kit (HNL) & Grenade SGF

Artfully Concealed Prohibited Items – It’s important to examine your bags prior to traveling to ensure you are not carrying prohibited items. If a prohibited item is discovered in your bag or on your body, you could be cited and possibly arrested by local law enforcement. Here are a few examples from this week where prohibited items were found by our officers in strange places.

  • A 13-inch cane sword was discovered at Charlotte (CLT).
  • A box cutter blade was found concealed in the lining of a carry-on bag at Boston (BOS).
discovered cane sword
Cane Sword (CLT)

Miscellaneous Prohibited Items In addition to all of the other prohibited items we find weekly, our officers also regularly find firearm components, realistic replica firearms, bb and pellet guns, airsoft guns, brass knuckles, ammunition, batons and many other prohibited items too numerous to note. 

discovered Samurai Sword (JFK), Chef's Knife (AUS), Switchblade (HNL)
Samurai Sword (JFK), Chef's Knife (AUS), Switchblade (HNL)
discovered marijuana
Marijuana (SMF)
12 Pounds of Marijuana - While resolving an alarm in checked baggage at Sacramento (SMF), TSA Officers discovered five vacuum sealed plastic bags filled with 12 pounds of marijuana in a checked bag that had been glued shut. Our officers are looking primarily for weapons, but when they come across drugs, they must be reported to local law enforcement.

Stun Guns – 16 stun guns were discovered this week in carry-on bags. Three were discovered at St. Louis (STL), two at Dallas Love (DAL), two more at Phoenix (PHX), and the remainder were discovered at Atlanta (ATL), Boise (BOI), Jackson (JAN), Las Vegas (LAS), Memphis (MEM), Oakland (OAK), Salt Lake City (SLC), San Francisco (SFO), and San Jose (SJC).

Ammunition – When packed properly, ammunition can be transported in your checked baggage, but it is never permissible to pack ammo in your carry-on bag.

discovered ammunition
Ammunition (BWI)

discovered firearms
(Clockwise from top) Firearms Discovered at: SNA, LIT, ATL, IND & BNA

discovered firearms
(Clockwise from top left corner) Firearms Discovered at:ADQ, MCO, OAK & AUS
table of firearms discovered in carry-on bags
*In order to provide a timely weekly update, this data is compiled from a preliminary report. The year-end numbers will vary slightly from what is reported in the weekly updates. However, any monthly, midyear or end-of-year numbers TSA provides on this blog or elsewhere will be actual numbers and not estimates.



You can travel with your firearms in checked baggage, but they must first be declared to the airline. You can go here for more details on how to properly travel with your firearms. Firearm possession laws vary by state and locality. Travelers should familiarize themselves with state and local firearm laws for each point of travel prior to departure.



Unfortunately these sorts of occurrences are all too frequent which is why we talk about these finds. Sure, it’s great to share the things that our officers are finding, but at the same time, each time we find a dangerous item, the line is slowed down and a passenger that likely had no ill intent ends up with a citation or in some cases is even arrested. The passenger can face a penalty as high as $7,500. This is a friendly reminder to please leave these items at home. Just because we find a prohibited item on an individual does not mean they had bad intentions, that's for the law enforcement officer to decide. In many cases, people simply forgot they had these items.



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59 comments:

Chris Boyce said...

"While resolving an alarm in checked baggage at Sacramento (SMF), TSA Officers discovered five vacuum sealed plastic bags filled with 12 pounds of marijuana in a checked bag that had been glued shut."

And just what was the alarm? I know -- "I thought I saw something."

You must be proud.

Anonymous said...

shame some of these are nice guns!

Ray Gunn said...

Where's the seizure of the "ray gun" belt buckle? Aren't you proud of that "good catch?" Remember, your co-workers confiscated this private property because it would incite panic in the flying public!

Why are you not allowed to address actual events, instead of this lame, insignificant stuff?

Anonymous said...

As always, absolutely nothing you needed your slow, invasive, and ineffective naked body scanners to detect. Meanwhile, how many people suffered physical searches thanks to false alarms on these useless machines?

Why are Curtis Burns and West Cooper unwilling to address, let alone answer, that question?

How many weeks has it been since you last trumpeted something dangerous you found with the naked body scanners?

SSSS for Some Reason said...

"...A box cutter blade was found concealed in the lining of a carry-on bag at Boston"

Really? This is newsworthy how?

And allow me to pile on to that other question that gets asked every week.... why do you have the big fancy nudie-scanners again? Every single thing in this list was found with a baggage scanner or a metal detector.

Rebecca Johnson said...

You didn't mention the ray gun. I would have thought you'd put that at the top.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/10/29/tsa-confiscares-raygun-belt-buckle-becau

Anonymous said...

Since it has been pushed down the page, was the cannon barrel from last week allowed to fly? It needed to be inspected, but if there is no cannon balls or gun powder, the barrel is harmless. It was in checked luggage so no one would have access to it during the flight.

That raygun belt buckle story posted above is pretty ridiculous. It's obviously not a weapon or even a realistic replica since it is based on a fictional item.

Anonymous said...

What is the difference between a loaded firearm and one with a round in the chamber? You break that down into two categories and don't really distinguish what that means.

Anonymous said...

Abolish the TSA!

Anonymous said...

The tsa officers are doing a great job, the people that complain are usually are not to brite to begin with so pay them no mind, keep up the great work!

Anonymous said...

How can people be bringing guns to the airport? It makes no sense! I am surprised at how many incidences this is occurring weekly! It's not the TSA who are idiots, it's the passengers. Security is important in this day and age. We can't have real or fake weapons aboard planes! It is just not safe!

Anonymous said...

"And allow me to pile on to that other question that gets asked every week.... why do you have the big fancy nudie-scanners again? Every single thing in this list was found with a baggage scanner or a metal detector."

Why do you have a smolke alarm if your house isnt on fire?
Why do you have car insurance if you havent crashed?
Why do you buy food if you arent hungry? Why do fire trucks carry water if they are just sitting in the station? Why do cops carry guns if they arent shooting them?

Are you really asking your question in all seriousness or are you just joking? Come on, really?

Anonymous said...

Thank you TSA for another successful week of keeping numerous possible threat items off of airplanes and anther successful week of NO TERROR ATTEMPST on an American based flight. 12 years and 100% mission success, no other agency can make that claim.

A New Day said...

That raygun belt buckle story posted above is pretty ridiculous. It's obviously not a weapon or even a realistic replica since it is based on a fictional item.

November 2, 2014 at 6:34 PM
..............
A demonstration of the competency of TSA.

Anonymous said...

"Abolish the TSA! "

I agree. Because 12 years of absolute safe American air travel is a complete waste of money.

You guys crack me up. You ask the most common sense of questions and make some of the silliest comments. I would be really embarrased for most of you if you really dont know the answers to your own questions.

Anonymous said...

As always, absolutely nothing you needed your slow, invasive, and ineffective naked body scanners to detect. Meanwhile, how many people suffered physical searches thanks to false alarms on these useless machines?

Why are Curtis Burns and West Cooper unwilling to address, let alone answer, that question?

How many weeks has it been since you last trumpeted something dangerous you found with the naked body scanners?

This gets answered every week...why do you continue to cut and paste the same lame question?

Anonymous said...

So all the catches worth reporting here didn't need the nude-o-scopes and the 'enhanced' patdowns.

Did you find dangerous snow globes and dangerous large shampoo bottles with the nude-o-scopes or with technologies that existed prior to 9/11?

Stanley Stats said...

Another statistacally insignficant blotter post by TSA.

Nearly 12,000,000 people flew last week.

TSA allegedly found 34 guns.

TSA definitely missed over 70 guns.

Nearly 110,000 flights flew last week.

0 were attacked by terrorist because, as TSA admitted in court documents, the few terrorists out there in this world are not planning to attack the US from a commercial passenger plane.

Less than .0003% of flyers were found to be carrying a weapon last week. .0006% were not caught, but were carrying.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"What is the difference between a loaded firearm and one with a round in the chamber? You break that down into two categories and don't really distinguish what that means."

What that means is the firearm is one step closer to be ready to use, as ammo needs chambered before it is fired. Personally, if you're gonna carry in the first place, I'm not sure why you *wouldn't* have your firearm ready for use.

Anonymous said...

I want to know what is done with these confiscated guns you stole from Americans citizens that pay your bills!?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"And allow me to pile on to that other question that gets asked every week.... why do you have the big fancy nudie-scanners again? Every single thing in this list was found with a baggage scanner or a metal detector."

Why do you have a smolke alarm if your house isnt on fire?
Why do you have car insurance if you havent crashed?
Why do you buy food if you arent hungry? Why do fire trucks carry water if they are just sitting in the station? Why do cops carry guns if they arent shooting them?

Are you really asking your question in all seriousness or are you just joking? Come on, really?

~~~~~~~~~~~

No, you come on, really.

Smoke Alarms, car insurance, fire trucks.... none of those things are preventative. They do not try and prevent fires or accidents or criminals.

The Nudie-Scanners are there to prevent items from getting through security. They are a supposedly active system, they are supposedly preventative in nature.

Since you started it, lets stick with your smoke alarm analogy....

You have a choice: You can install this $100 system that will sound an alarm loud enough to wake anyone in the building so you may escape and it will notify the authorities anytime it alarms.

Or...

You can install this $3000 system that will do everything the $100 system will do, but not as well because it will alarm more frequently, and it will alarm for things that aren't fire related, all because it is a very complex system designed to do a very simple thing.

Choose one.

The Walk-Through-Metal-Detector, the $100 analog system that has been proven to be 99% effective;

or the $3000 digital system that has yet to be proven effective at all.

Anonymous said...

The problem is that there is no way to measure the TSA's effectiveness. There have been no successful terrorist attacks in the last 12 years, but it could be that no one has tried either. It's like saying the rock in my garden keeps tigers away. I haven't seen any tigers since I put the rock there so it must work, right? I would think that in 12 years, with the number of passengers flying, that they either would have caught a terrorist or an attack would have been successful. All we have seen is the underwear and shoe bombers and their flights originated outside the US.

As far as the guns go, there have always been people caught carrying guns through security. These people are careless and should be fined and have their gun permits revoked. They aren't terrorists. It would have been reported on the news if terrorists were caught trying to bring guns on board a plane. So what if the TSA found guns and knives, it's a basic part of their job.


Anonymous said...

"This gets answered every week...why do you continue to cut and paste the same lame question?"

You're quite disturbed if you think these questions have ever been answered. Curtis Burns, West Cooper, and the other members of the blog team have never even acknowledged these questions, let alone answered them.

Wintermute said...

TSAnonymous said...
"And allow me to pile on to that other question that gets asked every week.... why do you have the big fancy nudie-scanners again? Every single thing in this list was found with a baggage scanner or a metal detector."

Why do you have a smolke alarm if your house isnt on fire?
Why do you have car insurance if you havent crashed?
Why do you buy food if you arent hungry? Why do fire trucks carry water if they are just sitting in the station? Why do cops carry guns if they arent shooting them?

Are you really asking your question in all seriousness or are you just joking? Come on, really?


What we have here is a logical fallacy. These are not equivalent questions, at all, but let me pose this to you:

You have a device which is effective at finding metal, and you have one with a giant blind spot. Nearly all items found thus far can be found by the first device, but, if someone wanted them through, could be smuggled through the second. The second device is also slower, and causes lots of false positives which then need "cleared." Which device would you rather have in service?

Anonymous said...

TSAnonymous said...

"This gets answered every week...why do you continue to cut and paste the same lame question?"

Actually, it doesn't, hence the repeat question...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous
"I want to know what is done with these confiscated guns you stole from Americans citizens that pay your bills!?"
I don't like what you are implying, I don't work for TSA but I do work for the government and I pay taxes too. I don't work tax free. I also need to have mandatory insurance, pay social security, and medicare.If you really want to pay my bills tell me your routing and checking account number so you can auto pay my bills.
What is the beef all of you have with TSA? Guns have not been allowed since before TSA was established. How do you people know nothing has been caught using the body scanners? Not everything is made public. To the person that said they do, even at that how do you know it makes national news. Why not get rid of TSA. If the the airports were privatized guess who would oversee, yes the FAA, which currently sets the regulations. I agree with previous posts if TSA was not a government agency you people would not even bother commenting. To the person commenting on why they need to show id here is example. Let's say Person1 has clean record and is not on no fly list and Person2 is on no fly list. Person1 buys a ticket under his name for Person2. Person2 gets to board the plane since no ID is verified. Now if id is verified and name not matches or is caught using fake id will he board the plane. It is common sense. Stop mentioning the Constitution or of rights being violated. I hope you do speak up when they are actually violated. For those who complain about going through security. I have flown out from different countries and trust me we have easy. To TSA agents thank you for the work you do I know it's not easy when all you hear is negativity.

Sandra said...

Do you know how you can tell who the anonymous posters are on this blog? Their poor grammar and spelling as well as their inability to think in a logical manner is a dead giveaway.

Bob or Curtis, do you recruit people to post positive comments here? Are they paid for their comments?

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Anonymous said...

You epople are idiots. How soon the ignorant American public forgets. Of course, as soon as there is another incident like 9/11, these same people will be up in arms about "why didn't you protect us?"

Anonymous said...

"TSA allegedly found 34 guns.

TSA definitely missed over 70 guns."

Allegedy? Im guessing there is document eveidence and probably photos to prove this.

Definitely? How do you know this?

Turn off the news, its messing with your command of common deffinitions.

Anonymous said...

I want to know what is done with these confiscated guns you stole from Americans citizens that pay your bills!?


TSA does not confiscate anything. Bringing a gun to a checkpoint is a crime and is handled by the police. If a gun is confiscated it would be by the police, not TSA.

You critics really have no clue about what you are speaking. You all ask the same questions every week to which there are obvious answers. You get answers ever week yet continue to ask.
This is why you have no credibility.

RB said...

You critics really have no clue about what you are speaking. You all ask the same questions every week to which there are obvious answers. You get answers ever week yet continue to ask.
This is why you have no credibility.

November 6, 2014 at 10:07 AM

..............
Please point to just one answer from TSA in this weeks post.

How about "Are ETD Swabs used once and discarded or used on multiple people/bags?"

When will the TSA "Can I Bring My" tool answer if Medical Nitroglycerin can be taken through A TSA Chcekpoint?

Or, why did TSA confiscate a Ray Gun belt buckle which is clearly not a threat, not a realistic replica, or anything of concern?

The TSA Blog has devolved into a completely useless taxpayer funded joke that proves the incompetence of TSA and its employees.

My suggestion is that if TSA's Blogger Bob, Blogger West, and whoever the other bloggers may be, that if they don't want to put in the effort to make this blog a worthwhile project then go ahead, admit defeat, and close up shop.

Until the determination is made to engage the public this blog will be nothing more than it is right now, a complete and utter failure headed up by Bob Burns.

RB said...

as far as TSA answering questions,

Did the cannon fly or not?

Anonymous said...

The USA Today article available at http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/2014/11/04/tsa-airport-executives-john-pistole-aaae/18453109/ says:

...[TSA Administrator John] Pistole said one his biggest frustrations is the growing number of guns found at airport checkpoints. TSA detected 1,928 so far this year and is on pace to break the record set last year of 1,956, he said.

None of those travelers was on a terrorist watch list, Pistole said.

"It's a distraction from our primary mission," he said.


If finding guns is not the primary mission of TSA--and is, in fact, a "distraction" according to your boss--why does this blog report the confiscation of guns and other weapons every week? Why do you not report on TSA's progress in achieving the primary mission instead? Or is this blog intended to distract the public from the primary mission by titillating the public with full-color pics of guns and knives and replica grenades?

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Susan Richart said...

"TSA does not confiscate anything."

If the TSA doesn't confiscate anything, then why do most of the articles touting all the weapons TSA finds use the word "confiscate?" These articles are TSA press releases and use of the word "confiscate" is not a coincidence.

Start with this article from USA Today, which is the preferred mouthpiece for the TSA, and Google others:

http://traveltips.usatoday.com/tsa-confiscated-items-108803.html

screen shot; DHS OIG statement

P.S. You might also want to look up the definition of the word "confiscate." If you have an open mind, it could be enlightening.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said..."... Stop mentioning the Constitution or of rights being violated. "

I will as soon as the government stops violating our Constitutional Rights.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This is why you have no credibility.

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Trying to tell others what level of credibility they may or may not have really lowers your credibility around here.

You post under the Anonymous tag because it is an option, but your grammar and style give you away as one of the TSA Cheerleaders that post so many other things about how great the TSA is and how stupid the rest of us are.

I am going to post this under the Anonymous tag too because it is there. You will probably recognize my style, I'll give you a hint..... my name is the same as the extra-security flag put on the tickets of people who speak out against the TSA.

We Want to Know said...

Why won't the TSA track AIT false alarms and pat-down rates as requested by the GAO and Congress?

Anonymous said...

No, TSAnonymous, I will never "stop mentioning the Constitution or of rights being violated!"

The fact that you are so offended by mentioning the founding documents of this country and what it guarantees says a lot about you and the TSA.

It says you don't care that our right to fly without govt interference if being violated every day.

It says you don't care that people are violated every day by sexual assault groping by TSA employees.

It says you don't care about the billions of dollars of private property confiscated under duress from innocent people by the TSA.

And it says you don't care about the people paying your salary and the people you were hired to "keep safe."

How typical. How pathetic.

If you are so proud of your employer and your work for the TSA, do the ethical thing and write under your name.

And buy a dictionary or use the spell correct.

Sandra said...

To quote myself:

"Do you know how you can tell who the anonymous posters are on this blog? Their poor grammar and spelling as well as their inability to think in a logical manner is a dead giveaway."

That should have read:

"Do you know how you can tell who the anonymous posters are on this blog are TSA employees? Their poor grammar and spelling as well as their inability to think in a logical manner is a dead giveaway.

SSSS for Some Reason said...

Seriously guys.... did the cannon fly or not?

RB said...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/2014/11/04/tsa-airport-executives-john-pistole-aaae/18453109/%20says:



"In response to questions from AAAE CEO Todd Hauptli, Pistole said one his biggest frustrations is the growing number of guns found at airport checkpoints. TSA detected 1,928 so far this year and is on pace to break the record set last year of 1,956, he said.

None of those travelers was on a terrorist watch list, Pistole said.

"It's a distraction from our primary mission," he said."

...............................

If keeping weapons off of commercial air flights is not TSA's primary mission then please tell us what TSA's primary mission is?

Perhaps finding "Ray Guns" or Drugs?

Anonymous said...

TSA does not confiscate. Persons attempting to travel with prohibited items are given the option of surrendering such items, unless there is State law that is being violated my possessing that item. It is impossible to track the number of false alarms from the AIT machines, as there are no false alarms. Anytime there is an alarm, it is there for a reason, although it may not be a suspect item, it is still an alarm. TSA does violate some civil rights, and those should be addressed. They should not be addressed to the TSA agents in the field because they are just Joe Public, trying to make a living. Take it up with your local politicians, thats the only way it will get solved.

Susan Richart said...

"TSA does not confiscate. Persons attempting to travel with prohibited items are given the option of surrendering such items, unless there is State law that is being violated my possessing that item. It is impossible to track the number of false alarms from the AIT machines, as there are no false alarms. Anytime there is an alarm, it is there for a reason, although it may not be a suspect item, it is still an alarm."

TSA does confiscate. In so many cases, a screener like you will just take a "prohibited" item and toss it in the trash, no questions asked.

The Government Accountability Office (GAO) says there are false alarms on AIT and has asked TSA to track those alarms and the resulting pat downs. So far, TSA has refused to do so. Don't believe me? Try this:

http://gao.gov/products/GAO-14-357

screen shot/DHS OIG Statement

Anonymous said...

If you have a problem with flying, then walk. If you don’t get the fact that even if TSA hasn’t physically stopped a terrorist the fact that the United States uses such advanced screening methods deters terrorists from even trying. Just using metal detectors would be idiotic. Is TNT made of metal?

RB said...

Anonymous said...
"TSA does not confiscate. Persons attempting to travel with prohibited items are given the option of surrendering such items, unless there is State law that is being violated my possessing that item."

TSA clearly confiscates items. The latest example is a Ray Gun belt buckle. Other examples are a purse, a cupcake, and the list goes on. Not allowing items under duress is a confiscation.


" It is impossible to track the number of false alarms from the AIT machines, as there are no false alarms. Anytime there is an alarm, it is there for a reason, although it may not be a suspect item, it is still an alarm."

Horse Hockey! I have gone through the useless Strip Search machines and the machine has alarmed. After a pat down and nothing was found what else could the alarm be called? Once is a fluke, multiple times is a pattern of failure.


"TSA does violate some civil rights, and those should be addressed. They should not be addressed to the TSA agents in the field because they are just Joe Public, trying to make a living. Take it up with your local politicians, thats the only way it will get solved.
November 7, 2014 at 7:12 PM"

The fact that TSA violates civil rights is not disputed.

But, it is the clerks at the checkpoints who are the individuals violating our civil rights so that is the rightful place to start the complaint process. If you don't want a complaint then don't do things you know to be wrong.

Francis said...

TSAnonymous, you are partially correct. The TSA does violate civil rights. Our rights are violated not by "Joe Public" innocent employees trying to make a living. They are violated by "trained" government employees paid by the taxpayers to violate our civil rights. These employees willingly commit these civil rights violations for money.

"I was just following orders" hasn't cut it for seventy years.

Thomas Nathan Turner said...

TSAnonymous2, we have the right to travel in this country, so your insulting comment, "if you don't like it, walk" is a non-starter.

Airports all over the world use only walk through metal detectors, no naked pic scanners in the screening area at all, but no terrorists have taken over planes in those countries.

It's been proven by the TSA itself that over twice as many guns get through screening as are found, so that is not a deterrence.

The TSA admitted in a court of law that no terrorist groups are trying to take over planes or attack airports, so apparently there is no deterrence needed.

How much and how often has real, actual TNT been found by a TSA screener ever? How often was this real, actual TNT been in a real, actual, live explosive device found at the screening area? How many of these real, actual explosive devices with TNT contained no metal? How many of them were being carried by terrorists intending to use the TNT explosive device to attack a plane?

All of this garbage at a cost, so far, of over $100 Billion for absolutely nothing. Stop wasting our time and money, TSA.

Anonymous said...

TSAnonymous said...

" TSA does violate some civil rights, and those should be addressed. They should not be addressed to the TSA agents in the field because they are just Joe Public, trying to make a living"

"Just following orders" is not, and has never been, a valid defense for breaking the law and violating the rights of fellow citizens. If the TSOs on the "front lines" don't like being called out for it, might I suggest a new line of work... I hear pizza delivery drivers can make good tips, and have roughly the same education requirements.

Anonymous said...

TSAnonymous said...

"Is TNT made of metal?"

And is anyone going to successfully smuggle enough TNT to bring down an aircraft through security without being noticed? It never happened in all the years prior to the nudoscopes, and even the TSA admits that they wouldn't have caught the underwear bomb.

Anonymous said...

"If you have a problem with flying, then walk..."

I have a RIGHT to fly. It's in the US Code of Laws. Look it up; links have been provided in responses to earlier blog entries (which you obviously haven't comprehended).

...If you don’t get the fact that even if TSA hasn’t physically stopped a terrorist the fact that the United States uses such advanced screening methods deters terrorists from even trying. Just using metal detectors would be idiotic. Is TNT made of metal?"

PROVE that TSA procedures have deterred terrorists. PROVE IT. If YOU can't prove it, tell TSA to prove it. (Good luck with asking TSA for proof. I have been asking for it for years, and TSA provides nothing.) If TSA cannot prove the effectiveness of any of its procedures, then
TSA cannot prove that it has a deterrent effect.

You seem to think that the naked body scanners would be effective at finding TNT, but on what facts do you base that? How do you expect a person to detonate the hypothetical TNT? Do you think having TNT on board will lead to the re-creation of 9/11? What if a terrorist who wants to maximize casualties and fear targets a busy TSA checkpoint instead of a plane?

Colm Barry said...

What do you do with these items? Are they just, if otherwise legally owned, kept and handed back after e.g. the penalties (if any) have been paid or will they be auctioned off, like the European post offices often do with stuff that either goes unclaimed or else has been found to contain stuff that must not be sent as a parcel yet is a saleable item?

R. Garner said...

I'm one of the guys who has been caught with ammo (one round) that fell out of a speed loader and remained in my backpack. TSA and local law enforcement handled it professionally and I still made my flight.

I believe they don't catch much with the body scanner because must forgetful people would remember they had a 38 stuffed in their trouser.

And for the people afraid of the big ole nudie scanners--get TSA pre-checked.

The box cutter hidden the carry on is something we all need to worry about.

SSSS for Some Reason said...

R. Garner said...And for the people afraid of the big ole nudie scanners--get TSA pre-checked.

No.

The Pre-Bribe... I mean PreCheck does not guarantee a place in the fast line. And PreCheck is not used in the airports I fly in and out of so still a no-go.


R. Garner then said....The box cutter hidden the carry on is something we all need to worry about.

Why?

I don't want to be the one cut, I'm pretty sure no one else does either. What other risk would a box cutter pose to the aircraft?

Rockford F. said...

R.Garner,

You had private property that was not a threat to aviation safety taken from you by the government. You may not care about a single bullet, but the lady who had a $75 bottle of perfume taken by a government employee allegedly because a round glass bottle "looked like a grenade" cared very much. Same with the guy's 2" pistol shaped USB drive. Same with the lady with a gun shaped design on her purse. Same with the guy with a bomb shaped clock.

Billions of dollars of personal care products, food, drink, toys, tools, hobby items, memorabilia, etc. are confiscated by the government for NO valid reason. NONE of these items were an actual threat to aviation safety.

Also, no, the person carrying the box cutter was not a threat to aviation safety either. No one can take over a plane with a box cutter. Cockpit doors are locked and the crew and passengers would disarm him quickly. We won't comply with hijackers anymore.

People use box cutters everyday for work and home use. There is no proof the person carrying the box cutter had any intent to do anything with it in the airport or on a plane.

George Washington said...

I love reading the anti TSA website. YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO FLY for the idiot who refuses to ID himself. Flying and driving is a privileged. The airline and aircraft is not publicly owned. Educate yourself before posting ignorant comments.

Good Job to the TSA. Thanks for keeping us safe. For those that want to bash TSA, don't fly. Take a train or drive and save the rest of us some headaches.

Jacklin Dorsey said...

Thank you TSA,GREAT JOB!

SSSS for Some Reason said...

George Washington said..."YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO FLY ...."

Actually, we do.

".... Educate yourself before posting ignorant comments. "

You really should take your own advice. Look up 49 U.S.C. § 40103, Sovereignty and use of airspace.

"...For those that want to bash TSA, don't fly. Take a train or drive and save the rest of us some headaches."

Exactly how do you suggest we drive to Europe? And which train goes to Hawaii? And TSA is already in the train stations, and they are also in the Sea Ports here in my state so even if I wanted to take a boat or a train, I still have to deal with the TSA.

Wintermute said...

Blogger George Washington said...

"YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO FLY for the idiot who refuses to ID himself. Flying and driving is a privileged."

Love how you chastise someone for refusing to ID themselves, then use an apparent pseudonym yourself. Hey, I use a pseudonym too, but I don't go around chastising others for being anonymous (anonymous speech was good enough for our founding fathers, it's good enough for me) and it's easy enough to figure out who I am, if you really wanted.

Also love how you write "privileged" instead of "privilege." Freudian slip, perhaps?

Finally, love how you accuse others of being ignorant on this matter, when the right to travel, including by air, is firmly established as a right afforded all citizens via the Constitution, US Code of Law, and SCOTUS. Who would be the ignorant party, again?

I Can Make Up A Fake Name Too said...

Hey George,

According to TSA's onerous procedures, one does not have to produce an ID to get on a plane. The TSA will Google you and then sexually assault you and rip apart your bag in some show of force to "punish" any citizen who lost their wallet or was robbed, but you'll still get on the plane without an ID.

Feel safe?