Friday, February 14, 2014

TSA Week in Review – 41 Firearms Discovered This Week (33 Loaded)



Loaded Firearm Discovered in a Carry-on Bag at (SEA)
Loaded Firearm Discovered in a Carry-on Bag at (SEA)
41 Firearms Discovered This Week – Of the 41 firearms, 33 were loaded and eight had rounds chambered. See a complete list and more photos at the bottom of this post.

Grenade Shaped Electronic Cigarette (HOU), Grenade Shaped Lighter (MIA)
Grenade Shaped Electronic Cigarette (HOU), Grenade Shaped Lighter (MIA)
Inert Ordnance and Grenades etc. - We continue to find inert hand grenades and other weaponry on a weekly basis. Please keep in mind that if an item looks like a realistic bomb, grenade, mine, etc., it is prohibited. When these items are found at a checkpoint or in checked baggage, they can cause significant delays in checkpoint screening. While they may be novelty items, you cannot bring them on a plane. Read here on why inert items cause problems.

  • Three inert/replica grenades were discovered this week in carry-on bags at Rochester (RST), Houston (HOU) and Miami (MIA).
Belt Buckle Knife (LAX), Credit Card Knife (MCI)
Belt Buckle Knife (LAX), Credit Card Knife (MCI)

Artfully Concealed Prohibited Items – It’s important to examine your bags prior to traveling to ensure no prohibited items are inside. If a prohibited item is discovered in your bag or on your body, you could be cited and quite possibly arrested by local law enforcement. Here are a few examples from this week where prohibited items were found by our officers in strange places. 

  • A pocket knife was found taped inside the interior lining of a bag at Denver (DEN).
  • Two credit card knives were discovered in two separate incidents at Kansa City (MCI).
  • A belt buckle knife was discovered at Los Angeles (LAX).
Monkey Fist (MOB)
Monkey Fist (MOB)



Miscellaneous Prohibited Items - In addition to all of the other prohibited items we find weekly, our officers also regularly find firearm components, realistic replica firearms, bb and pellet guns, Airsoft guns, brass knuckles, ammunition, batons, and a lot of sharp pointy things… 





Samurai Sword (LAX)
Samurai Sword (LAX)
Items Discovered at (Top to Bottom / Left to Right) HPN, OGG, ROC, SFO, ROC, ORD, ORD
Items Discovered at (Top to Bottom / Left to Right) HPN, OGG, ROC, SFO, ROC, ORD, ORD
Stun GunsNine stun guns were discovered this week in carry-on bags around the nation at Albuquerque (ABQ), Denver (DEN), Las Vegas (LAS), Medford (MFR), Mobile (MOB), Oakland (OAK), Newport News (PHF), Provo (PVU), and Trenton (TTN).

Stun Guns Discovered at (Left to Right): MFR, ABQ, TTN
Stun Guns Discovered at (Left to Right): MFR, ABQ, TTN
Ammunition – When packed properly, ammunition can be transported in your checked luggage, but it is never permissible to pack ammo in your carry-on bag.

Ammunition Discovered in Carry-On Bag at (LAS)
Ammunition Discovered in Carry-On Bag at (LAS)
Airsoft Guns – An Airsoft gun was discovered in a carry-on bag this week at San Diego (SAN). Airsoft guns are prohibited in carry-on bags, but allowed in checked baggage. Read this post for more information: TSA Travel Tips Tuesday: Traveling With Airsoft Guns

Airsoft Gun Discovered at (SAN)
Airsoft Gun Discovered at (SAN)
Firearms Discovered This Week in Carry-On Bags 

Guns Discovered at (Top to Bottom / Left to Right) RDU, OTH, ATL, TUL, MOB, JAN, ATL, PDX
Guns Discovered at (Top to Bottom / Left to Right) RDU, OTH, ATL, TUL, MOB, JAN, ATL, PDX
41 Firearms Discovered This Week – Of the 41 firearms, 33 were loaded and eight had rounds chambered. *In order to provide a timely weekly update, date is compiled from a preliminary report. The year-end numbers will vary slightly from what is reported in the weekly updates. However, any monthly, midyear, or end-of-year numbers TSA provides on this blog or elsewhere will be actual numbers and not estimates.

You can travel with your firearms in checked baggage, but they must first be declared to the airline. You can go here for more details on how to properly travel with your firearms. Firearm possession laws vary by state and locality. Travelers should familiarize themselves with state and local firearm laws for each point of travel prior to departure.

Unfortunately these sorts of occurrences are all too frequent which is why we talk about these finds. Sure, it’s great to share the things that our officers are finding, but at the same time, each time we find a dangerous item, the throughput is slowed down and a passenger that likely had no ill intent ends up with a citation or in some cases is even arrested. The passenger can face a penalty as high as $7,500.00. This is a friendly reminder to please leave these items at home. Just because we find a prohibited item on an individual does not mean they had bad intentions, that's for the law enforcement officer to decide. In many cases, people simply forgot they had these items.

If you haven’t seen it yet, make sure you check out our post highlighting the dangerous, scary, and downright unusual items our officers found in 2012. The 2011 list can be found here.

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52 comments:

RB said...

Another week and another cut and paste post.

Why no original work? Surely the salary we taxpayers are forced to subsidize is high enough for a bit of effort.

Question, what threat does ammo present in a persons carry on bag that is different in a checked bag?

CAPTCHA NOT FUNNY.

Barbara said...

Unbelievable! I'm so glad I subscribed to this. And good to know TSA is doing a thorough job!

Anonymous said...

Blotter team posts: "Be scared!" (We found something that wasn't necessarily illegal.)

"Be terrified!" (What little we actually find was on hundredths of a percent of weekly travellers.)

"Terrorists are everywhere!" (We know they aren't and admitted so in court, but have to justify the overhiring of thousands of screeners.)

Another blotter team fail, West.

Anonymous said...

Dear Blogger Bob -- What is it with all these guns? I read the weekly "TSA Week in Review" and it seems that the number of firearms discovered is increasing rather than decreasing. The prohibition to carry firearms on board passenger airplanes predates the TSA, so it's not a "new" regulation. Are passengers that misinformed that they still think it's acceptable to carry a gun on board an aircraft? What insights can you provide as to why this issue continues -- and is increasing?? (I find it mind boggling!)

GSOLTSO said...

RB sez - "CAPTCHA NOT FUNNY."

The captcha is designed to help prevent SPAM and computer programs from mass posting. Sadly with the volume of SPAM and brute force systems out there, it is a necessary component.

Barbara sez - "Unbelievable! I'm so glad I subscribed to this. And good to know TSA is doing a thorough job!"

Thanks Barbara, we are glad to hear from you!

Anon sez - "(We found something that wasn't necessarily illegal.)
"

Not all items found and published here are illegal, some are simply prohibitied from flying. Regardless of whether an item is illegal or simply prohibited, we post the weekly report in the interest of communicating the types of items we find to the public. We hope that by seeing some of these posts, people that may not know something is prohibited, may learn that bringing that item can cause them some delays or some time with local LEOs. Hopefully, by posting this, we can save some of the public some time, having to worry about making arrangements for their disallowed property, and in some cases, the visit with LEOs.

West
TSA Blog Team

GSOLTSO said...

Anon sez - "What is it with all these guns?"

I can not comment on all of the guns found, but the most common phrase I have heard in these situations is "I forgot that was in there/didn't know that was in there" or some variation of that statement. The most common reaction is complete confusion, the second most common reaction is something along the lines of hanging the head and indicating they thought it was in another bag/location. This is one of the reasons we do this weekly report, in the hopes that some of the public will read about these items, double check their bags and not bring something they may have fogotten was in the bag - or even that they didn't know was prohibited.

West
TSA Blog Team

RB said...

 GSOLTSO said...RB sez - "CAPTCHA NOT FUNNY."The captcha is designed to help prevent SPAM and computer programs from mass posting. Sadly with the volume of SPAM and brute force systems out there, it is a necessary component.
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The csptcha was "Happy Valentine". Accidental or manipulated by TSA?

Anonymous said...

The prohibition list, and this pathetic blotter every week includes inert, replica, toy, and novelty items confiscated by the TSA.

The US government is seizing the private property of passengers, when neither the property, nor the passenger, is a threat to aviation safety.

An empty grenade shaped perfume bottle, or one under the ridiculous 3.4oz rule, should not be taken. A two inch plastic gun-shaped USB drive should not have been seized. A two-inch prop toy gun should not have been seized (the sock monkey incident). These are not "good catches." They are theft under the color of ridiculous govt administrative rules.

The novelty grenade lighter and e-cig above should not have been seized for their shapes.

The US government has no right to take our private property.

West, will you admit here that so much of this all out theft of our property is unnecessary? Like the small pocketknives the TSA itself wanted to let through. Like the sock monkey gun. Will your bosses allow you to speak the truth that is so lacking on this blotter site?

Screen shot because I think there's a 50/50 chance it will be censored.

GSOLTSO said...

RB sez - "The csptcha was "Happy Valentine". Accidental or manipulated by TSA?"

The captchas are done by the Blogger system. Sometimes the actual captchas are theme oriented and/or holiday oriented (at least in my experience).

West
TSA Blog Team

RB said...

http://www.rep-am.com/news/local/783760.txt

How strange, not one word about the TSA employee who shot her boyfriend. Apparently the TSA Blog team wants to hide some TSA related information.

Falcon-One said...

Anonymous said...

The US government has no right to take our private property.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You are absolutely correct, The Government cannot TAKE your property.

You have the right to;
1. Take the item to your car
2. Check it in Checked Baggage
3. Give it to someone not traveling with you
4. And/or voluntary abandon it to TSA

TSA cannot and will not TAKE your property, unless you voluntary abandon it to them.

wintermute said...

"TSA cannot and will not TAKE your property, unless you voluntary abandon it to them."

Except, under duress of "do you want to fly today," it's not exactly voluntary, now is it?

Susan Richart said...

David Castelveter, spokesperson for the TSA:

"We just keep track of the confiscations, because the police don’t always keep us apprised of what happens,” Castelveter said. ”We don’t pay attention to the arrest unless it turns into an indictment and we have an agent give testimony in a trial.”

Or

"All have been confiscated from travelers screened at TSA checkpoints, Lisa Farbstein, TSA spokeswoman at the airport, said Thursday afternoon."

What do you have to say to the above, Falcon-One? Still convinced that your agency doesn't "confiscate?"

screen shot/DHS OIG

TSORon said...

Susan Richart said…
[[What do you have to say to the above, Falcon-One? Still convinced that your agency doesn't "confiscate?"]]

No idea what Falcon1 will say, but here is the fact you seem to have missed.

In none of the statements you list does it say that TSA was the agency or office confiscating the property. The statements do not say who confiscated what. “Confiscate” has a specific meaning and what the TSA does in regards to disallowed property does not even come close to the definition of the word. Any definition, except your personal one and that of a very few others.

Anonymous said...

Good job keeping the flying public safe and communicating what you have found. I love reading all the snide comments from infants with keyboards. People complain if you don't tell them something, then complain if you do. Then they pick apart each others posting, looking to improve their self esteem, by revealing some discrepancy they "discovered". (Way to go Couch Commander !) Their lives must be pretty good, if all they can do is complain on a TSA blog. (Captcha is a horrific abomination to mankind) Keep up the great work!!! You guys rock (Is this a Gender specific reference...OMG what with the web experts say?!) Keep working, learning, improving, and communicating and laugh at the haters, as you help keep us all safe.

Susan Richart said...

++Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie - what about "All have been confiscated from travelers screened at TSA checkpoints..." are you unable to understand? What other agency confiscates belongings at checkpoints?

Here's the complete paragraph from which the TSA spokesperson's comment was gleaned:

"There are other items screeners recommend you leave at home, ranging from an assortment of saws, knives and replica guns to a spear gun and a homemade wooden mallet. All have been confiscated from travelers screened at TSA checkpoints, Lisa Farbstein, TSA ..."

http://www.app.com/article/20121220/NJNEWS/312200090/Flying-holiday-Feds-say-leave-shotgun-shells-home?nclick_check=1

Look up the word confiscate in the dictionary. It means to take or seize with authority.

The Castelveter quote come from an NBC segment on the number of guns found at checkpoints. When the TSA finds a gun, it is confiscated and a call is made to the PD which comes and takes possession of said gun.

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

Anonymous said...

RB, why would a TSA blog, intended to inform the flying public about the number of prohibited/restricted items that were prevented from being illegally brought onto an aircraft, include a news story about a TSA agent who shot his girlfriend ?

Susan Richart said...

Ronnie, here's another comment for your edification:

“All we’re permitted to do is confiscate the weapon and call law enforcement agents, who then will take custody of it and determine whether or not you’re arrested,” said Mr. Castelveter, who is part of the security agency’s effort to notify local news media to aggressively publicize reports of guns and other prohibited weapons being found at checkpoints.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/29/business/tsa-is-finding-more-guns-at-airport-security-checkpoints.html?_r=0

screen shot/DHS OIG state,ent

Anonymous said...

Outside of the guns, which of those items could be used to hijack a plane?

Anonymous said...

So, Bob. Could you please explain what the "inhibited persons list" is for, what is a TSA employee supposed to do if they encounter someone on it, and under what circumstances (hypothetically speaking) a distinguished human rights lawyer could end up on it?

I'm sure that you'll be able to get us all an answer to this question. After all, if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide.

Wintermute said...

TSORon said...

“Confiscate” has a specific meaning and what the TSA does in regards to disallowed property does not even come close to the definition of the word. Any definition, except your personal one and that of a very few others.

And so does "duress," which is what causes the "voluntary surrender." Therefore, "confiscate" is still the correct term.

Also, many TSAgents do NOT give the passenger an option, despite SOP. "Confiscate" applies there as well.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Dear Blogger Bob -- What is it with all these guns? I read the weekly "TSA Week in Review" and it seems that the number of firearms discovered is increasing rather than decreasing. The prohibition to carry firearms on board passenger airplanes predates the TSA, so it's not a "new" regulation. Are passengers that misinformed that they still think it's acceptable to carry a gun on board an aircraft? What insights can you provide as to why this issue continues -- and is increasing?? (I find it mind boggling!)

i am curious as to why the tsa is responsible for what a person brings through an airport. it is tsas job to stop weapons, explosives, and incindiaries and that is what they are doing.

Anonymous said...

rb said: Question, what threat does ammo present in a persons carry on bag that is different in a checked bag?

i believe that you can still utlize ammo without a firearm, therefore it is considered a weapon.

Anonymous said...

rb said:
http://www.rep-am.com/news/local/783760.txt

How strange, not one word about the TSA employee who shot her boyfriend. Apparently the TSA Blog team wants to hide some TSA related information.

why would any company/agency comment on any situation until an investigation is completed? i would not expect a knee jerk reaction to any events until all information is gathered.

Anonymous said...

How did the attacking and insulting comment by a TSAnonymous of Feb 16, 8:41pm get through your strict moderation, West? Was it written by one of the crack blotter team members?

Anonymous said...

Why was my reply to F. One censored?

Anonymous said...

suzie said:
++Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie - what about "All have been confiscated from travelers screened at TSA checkpoints..." are you unable to understand? What other agency confiscates belongings at checkpoints?

doesnt cbp prohibit items from entering the country at checkppoint? at the state level there are checkpoints at courthouses and i believe that they confiscate belongings.

RB said...

Anonymous said...RB, why would a TSA blog, intended to inform the flying public about the number of prohibited/restricted items that were prevented from being illegally brought onto an aircraft, include a news story about a TSA agent who shot his girlfriend ?February 17, 2014 at 8:38 AM


ABOUT THIS BLOG

"The purpose of this blog is to communicate with the public about all things TSA related. Check in regularly for "Travel Tips Tuesday" and our end of week "TSA Week in Review" posts on Fridays."

I think you failed to read and understand the stated purpose of this blog.

RB said...

Anonymous said...rb said: Question, what threat does ammo present in a persons carry on bag that is different in a checked bag?

i believe that you can still utlize ammo without a firearm, therefore it is considered a weapon.
February 18, 2014 at 5:42 AM

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How?

RB said...

Anonymous said...rb said:http://www.rep-am.com/news/local/783760.txtHow strange, not one word about the TSA employee who shot her boyfriend. Apparently the TSA Blog team wants to hide some TSA related information.

why would any company/agency comment on any situation until an investigation is completed? i would not expect a knee jerk reaction to any events until all information is gathered.
February 18, 2014 at 5:45 AM
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TSA could acknowledge the reports that keep popping up in the news and tell the public what is being done and the resolution when available. By hiding and not addressing these stories TSA looks impotent.

Anonymous said...

Once again, TSA, thank you for the information. Hopefully those that try to bring banned items onboard will think twice before trying to - or will actually check their bags before they get to the checkpoint.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

How did the attacking and insulting comment by a TSAnonymous of Feb 16, 8:41pm get through your strict moderation, West? Was it written by one of the crack blotter team members?

February 18, 2014 at 6:40 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why was my reply to F. One censored?

February 18, 2014 at 6:41 AM"

Please report both of these incidents to the DHS OIG:

http://www.oig.dhs.gov/hotline/hotline.php

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Anonymous said...

Hey RB
The difference between a checked bag with ammo and a carry on bag with ammo is a passenger does NOT have access to a checked bag. It would be BELOW the plane in the non pressurized part of the plane.

RB said...

 Anonymous said...Hey RBThe difference between a checked bag with ammo and a carry on bag with ammo is a passenger does NOT have access to a checked bag. It would be BELOW the plane in the non pressurized part of the plane.
February 18, 2014 at 9:19 PM
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The question was what threat does ammo pose in carry on bags?

So far no one seems able to state a threat.

I'm not saying there is no threat but if there is the threat should easily articulated.

GSOLTSO said...

RB sez - "I'm not saying there is no threat but if there is the threat should easily articulated."

There are several possible threats that can be associated with carrying rounds on the plane, from zip guns made of everyday items, to using the powder inside them for nefarious reasons. One more reason is the visual impact and panic it could create in the cabin area during a flight, just like realistic replicas of items, it can inspire a panic amongst the passengers or crew - thus creating an unsafe situation and possibly resulting in injuries to some of the passengers. These tems are on the prohibited list therefore, not allowed to go.

Technically rounds could also be listed under the incendiary heading as well due to the powder inside. Finding and preventing items like these from getting on the planes is part of the primary job of finding WEI.

West
TSA Blog Team

Susan Richart said...

"One more reason is the visual impact and panic it could create in the cabin area during a flight, just like realistic replicas of items, it can inspire a panic amongst the passengers or crew - thus creating an unsafe situation and possibly resulting in injuries to some of the passengers. These tems are on the prohibited list therefore, not allowed to go."

Please, West, come up with a better excuse than this.

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

RB said...

GSOLTSO said...RB sez - "I'm not saying there is no threat but if there is the threat should easily articulated.

"There are several possible threats that can be associated with carrying rounds on the plane, from zip guns made of everyday items, to using the powder inside them for nefarious reasons. One more reason is the visual impact and panic it could create in the cabin area during a flight, just like realistic replicas of items, it can inspire a panic amongst the passengers or crew - thus creating an unsafe situation and possibly resulting in injuries to some of the passengers. These tems are on the prohibited list therefore, not allowed to go. Technically rounds could also be listed under the incendiary heading as well due to the powder inside. Finding and preventing items like these from getting on the planes is part of the primary job of finding WEI.
WestTSA Blog Team
February 19, 2014 at 10:36 AM
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Zip guns, how could one get pass TSA screening?

Using the powder. After magically removing the projectile from the casing, no simple task without proper tools.

I simply reject the 'scary' aspect of this. No different than calling a semi-automatic rifle an assault weapon just because it has a pistol grip and flash suppressor. Just more silliness.

Anonymous said...

Bob:

Could you please stop referring to those cheesy tourist-trap hunks of cheap steel as "samauri swords" and the like? You are unintentionally insulting everyone who knows what a real blade looks like.. as well insulting the Nihontō Bunka Shinkō Kyōkai. The image shown is of a bad imitation of a Tanto or a Uchigatana, with mechanically created "ha" decorating the "hira." Basically, this picture is of the type of dagger or knife sold in "sailor town" souvenier stores to American tourists or - more often - 7th Fleet USN Sailors [OSSNs or ITSNs in Sasebo or Yokosuka normally]. Something like Tachi or Katana is a "sword." Calling what is shown in the picture a "samauri sword" ranks along the same ilk as calling any vehicle made by Ford or Chevy a "luxury automobile."

Thank you.

TSORon said...

Susan Richart asked…
[[what about "All have been confiscated from travelers screened at TSA checkpoints..." are you unable to understand? What other agency confiscates belongings at checkpoints?}]]

Well Sue, since TSA does not confiscate things I would look to maybe the local police departments. They have such authority, TSA does not.

TSORon said...

Wintermute commented…

[[And so does "duress," which is what causes the "voluntary surrender." Therefore, "confiscate" is still the correct term.]]

Not quite sir, since you are free to leave the checkpoint at any time, no one from the TSA will stop you. Your item on the other hand, will not be allowed into the sterile area. So I guess if I were to look at it as you do we are possibly causing duress to your prohibited item, not to you. Can an inanimate object be placed under duress?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...rb said: Question, what threat does ammo present in a persons carry on bag that is different in a checked bag?

i believe that you can still utlize ammo without a firearm, therefore it is considered a weapon.
February 18, 2014 at 5:42 AM

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How?

all you have to do is strike the primer with enough force to set it off. hence the reason why you are not allowed to have loose ammo in your checked luggage.

Anonymous said...

Susan Richart said...
"One more reason is the visual impact and panic it could create in the cabin area during a flight, just like realistic replicas of items, it can inspire a panic amongst the passengers or crew - thus creating an unsafe situation and possibly resulting in injuries to some of the passengers. These tems are on the prohibited list therefore, not allowed to go."

Please, West, come up with a better excuse than this.

screen shot/DHS OIG statement

were realistic replicas allowed before tsa? this sure seems like a rational explaination to me and not an excuse. is it tsa's mission to appease the blotters or to come up with rational policies that cover a wide range of people?

Anonymous said...

did a see a news story about shoes being used to hold bombs?

Anonymous said...

I thank TSA. And I am sure 95% of you would too if you found out that the flight you took had a TSA employee stop a terrorist that would crash your plane.


I get annoyed at the long lines, sure. but I think of flying safer than ever before and the annoyance leaves me.

TSA has told travelers to cheek out what can be brought on the plane, in carry on and in checked baggage. If a fool ignores those rules. how is it TSA's fault they lose those items?

I have had to surrender a few items, do to my negligence. I now take the time to check out what I can carry on and what can be checked in.

If I want to fly safe. then I am all for TSA taking control of all sorts of gadgets that any reasonable person would know could and maybe should be confiscated.

Thank you TSA for keeping us safe.

Susan Richart said...

TSORon wrote:

"Well Sue, since TSA does not confiscate things I would look to maybe the local police departments. They have such authority, TSA does not."

Again I ask you, Ronnie, what is it about this that you cannot comprehend:

“All we’re [meaning the TSA] permitted to do is confiscate the weapon and call law enforcement agents, who then will take custody of it and determine whether or not you’re arrested,” said Mr. Castelveter, ...."

David Castelveter is the director of external communications for the TSA. Are you trying to say, Ronnie, that you know more than he does?

Screen shot/DHS OIG statement

Susan Richart said...

Anonymous wrote:

"doesnt cbp prohibit items from entering the country at checkppoint? at the state level there are checkpoints at courthouses and i believe that they confiscate belongings."

Yes, Customs and Border Patrol does confiscate items coming into the country. I presume that certain items are confiscated at courthouses and other places.

I am not certain what this has to do with the TSA confiscating items at checkpoints.

GSOLTSO said...

RB sez - "Zip guns, how could one get pass TSA screening?

Using the powder. After magically removing the projectile from the casing, no simple task without proper tools.

I simply reject the 'scary' aspect of this."

Zip guns are made from everyday items, you know that, and I know that. It takes about 2 minutes to craft one.

It takes an average person about 30 seconds to figure out how to pry open a round with items in their carry-on. If you have strong hands, you can do it with no tools at all.

Realistic replicas can create a safety hazard by generating fear in those around them that do not know they are not real. See these stories for more.

Fake gun incident

Fake bomb incident

These items can inspire outright terror in some folks, creating a safety hazard for all around them. Just because you or I may look at something in the context that it actually exists (Fake gun/bomb - Ha ha, that was a good one!), does not mean that everyone will do the same. Some people will look at an item and simply react to their particular fears - violently so in some cases. It is an overall safety issue, and planes are better off if these replicas are not there - not to mention the real items.

West
TSA Blog team

GSOLTSO said...

Anon sez - "Calling what is shown in the picture a "samauri sword" ranks along the same ilk as calling any vehicle made by Ford or Chevy a "luxury automobile"

Wait, Chevy and Ford don't make luxury cars?

In all seriousness, when an item comes to us in a picture, we use the most common descriptors for the larger audience. For those of us that are uneducated in the finer points of sword crafting, a Osaraku-zukuri Tanto by Yoshihara Yoshindo is of about the same basic appearance as the $20 special at the local Flea market... They look the same, same basic shape, same tang construction, the same style of grip weave. Even though one has had the metal folded thousands of times, and took upwards of a year to craft and perfect - they both are considered "Samurai Swords" in common parlance. Please forgive us for using the terms somewhat loosely.

West
TSA Blog Team

Anonymous said...

suzie Richart said...
Anonymous wrote:

"doesnt cbp prohibit items from entering the country at checkppoint? at the state level there are checkpoints at courthouses and i believe that they confiscate belongings."

Yes, Customs and Border Patrol does confiscate items coming into the country. I presume that certain items are confiscated at courthouses and other places.

I am not certain what this has to do with the TSA confiscating items at checkpoints.

suzie you asked "++Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie - what about "All have been confiscated from travelers screened at TSA checkpoints..." are you unable to understand? What other agency confiscates belongings at checkpoints?"

i was simply replying to your question.

Susan Richart said...

"i was simply replying to your question."

The topic of discussion is TSA checkpoints, not CPB or courthouse checkpoints.

Wintermute said...

TSORon said...
"Wintermute commented…

[[And so does "duress," which is what causes the "voluntary surrender." Therefore, "confiscate" is still the correct term.]]

Not quite sir, since you are free to leave the checkpoint at any time, no one from the TSA will stop you. Your item on the other hand, will not be allowed into the sterile area. So I guess if I were to look at it as you do we are possibly causing duress to your prohibited item, not to you. Can an inanimate object be placed under duress? "

Word games, and you know it.

RB said...

TSORon said...

Well Sue, since TSA does not confiscate things I would look to maybe the local police departments. They have such authority, TSA does not.

February 19, 2014 at 8:18 PM

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If I show up with a weapon in my carry on will I be given the opportunity to return the weapon to my car or to check the weapon or will it be confiscated and police called?

Who has control of the weapon until police arrive on scene?