Tuesday, November 1, 2011

TSA Checkpoints This Halloween: Trick Or Treat?

Boots with bullets.
Boots with gun barrel heel and bullets Photo courtesy of TSA-JFK
Halloween. Dress up in a scary costume, visit some neighbors, shout, “Trick or treat!” and race home to see what’s inside the bag. That’s the normal spiel, but passengers at airports this Halloween put their own spin on the holiday, and believe me when I say that several had some tricks up their sleeves and in their bags.

Let’s see, there was the passenger in Boston who had a steak knife in his carry-on bag; the El Paso passenger with a 6 ½-inch hunting knife in his carry-on bag; the LaGuardia Airport passenger who had eight rounds of 9 mm ammunition in his bag; the JFK Airport passenger who had a 6-inch butterfly knife in his bag; and the New Orleans passenger who had a loaded .380 caliber firearm--with a bullet in the chamber--in his carry-on bag.

Unlike trick or treat, these passengers didn’t get to go home with their goodies. All of those items were confiscated. And due to jurisdictional laws, the passengers in the New York airports were cited for violating the local laws. 

Now that the fall season is arriving, it’s likely that many of you are camping, hunting, hiking, etc. There’s a good chance the last time you wore your fall coat or used your knapsack was on a hunting or fishing trip, and maybe you left a knife or some ammunition tucked away in one of those handy-dandy compartments. Truth is, we’d rather you keep your guns, knives, and ammunition--just keep them at home, that’s all. So be sure to take the time to do a quick check of your personal items to be sure you’re not forgetting about the weapon you tucked away during your last trip.

And it doesn’t hurt to think about what you’re wearing when heading to the airport. Your favorite belt with the brass-knuckles buckle? Leave it at home. The cool western belt with bullets decorating the side, leave it in the drawer. Hand grenade belt buckle? Yep…. We see it all. And the boots pictured below that were worn to JFK Airport—the ones with the shiny bullets and handgun barrel heel--please leave them in the closet instead of wearing them to the airport, even on Halloween. 

Lisa Farbstein - Guest Blogger/TSA Spokesperson New York/New Jersey

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65 comments:

Mike Toreno said...

"And it doesn’t hurt to think about what you’re wearing when heading to the airport. Your favorite belt with the brass-knuckles buckle? Leave it at home. The cool western belt with bullets decorating the side, leave it in the drawer. Hand grenade belt buckle? Yep…. We see it all. And the boots pictured below that were worn to JFK Airport—the ones with the shiny bullets and handgun barrel heel--please leave them in the closet instead of wearing them to the airport, even on Halloween."

None of these things you mention are real weapons, and none of them constitute a threat. So why should we leave them at home?

Here's an idea. Why doesn't the TSA start firing people who don't pay attention during the training, who don't know things they're supposed to know, and who don't know how to distinguish between a harmless object and a threat?

amulbunny's random thoughts said...

OH please. What about the guy that flew out of PDX with 500 rounds undetected. You know what they say, 100 Attaboys are wiped out with 1 Oh #$%^.

Nadav said...

I understand why these items cannot go on a plane, but why were people fined for arriving to checkpoints with these items?

Confiscation and fines are a double punishment, and it just seems wrong.

Nadav

Paladin61 said...

I always read these posts, and they provide a unique source of entertainment...but it's a pathetic sort of entertainment! What ever happened to common sense? What's so difficult about "check your stuff" (after all there are only one-syllable words in this phrase. Even simpler - the TSA could do it's job much more easily if everyone would just THINK (they're too nice to say these things, so I'll do it for them).

jtm said...

Are you saying that the bullets pictured are REAL?

Anonymous said...

And how many actual terrorists intent on taking an airplane did you catch?

Zero, right?

Anonymous said...

And just to be clear, Lisa, none of these people intended to harm a flight, and none of them have been charged with doing so, and none of these items were detected with strip-search technology, correct? Instead, they were found by the least invasive screening technologies you've got.

Care to explain TSA's sudden interest in posting these routine detections of items carried by people who you admit were not intending any harm to anyone?

Anonymous said...

"Unlike trick or treat, these passengers didn’t get to go home with their goodies. All of those items were confiscated. And due to jurisdictional laws, the passengers in the New York airports were cited for violating the local laws."
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So we finally admit that we do actually confiscate items.

Curtis said...

As much as I dislike the TSA, I will never fault them for finding actual weapons. So good job there.
I would like to point out, however, that all of the items referenced in this post were found with pre-9-11 security methods- i.e., x-raying carry-on bags.
If fact, I would like to remind everybody of this post from your blog: http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/12/70-detection-failure-rate-being.html
In this post you state that the 500 naked scanners deployed found only 130 items in an entire year. Which, to break it down, means that 75% of these scanners caught NOTHING AT ALL! The other 25% found only ONE item in an entire year.
Finding knives with x-rays- good.
Finding nothing with AIT- bad.

Anonymous said...

"In this post you state that the 500 naked scanners deployed found only 130 items in an entire year. Which, to break it down, means that 75% of these scanners caught NOTHING AT ALL! The other 25% found only ONE item in an entire year."

Sadly, they do worse than find nothing -- they find nothing but harmless, private medical devices like insulin pumps, shunts, pressure garments, and ostomy bags. TSA thus imposes tremendous costs on both the innocent people they invasively probe and on itself, since its poorly trained, unprofessional screeners spend their time poking and prodding at harmless medical devices instead of watching for (incredibly rare) actual threats. My sympathies, of course, lie with the passengers moreso than with TSA's screeners, but TSA's naked body scanners harm not just the victims of the scanners, but everyone who travels by distracting TSA and thus making us all much less safe than we should be.

Jim Huggins said...

I thought that TSA never "confiscated" anything from a passenger ... that passengers only "voluntarily surrendered" items. Care to explain?

Blogger Bob said...

Jim we didn't and we don't confiscate items. The items mentioned in this post were all illegal prohibited items that were confiscated by the police. See the part about passengers being cited by the police.

Blogger Bob
TSA Blog Team

Anonymous said...

"And how many actual terrorists intent on taking an airplane did you catch?

Zero, right?"

Terrorists are testing all the time, in many ways..who would know?

Anonymous said...

"Terrorists are testing all the time, in many ways..who would know?"

No, they aren't. If they were, TSA would likely have caught one, if only accidentally. Suicide terrorism is incredibly rare, despite TSA's hysterics and bedwetting.

Anonymous said...

Mike Toreno said...
Here's an idea. Why doesn't the TSA start firing people who don't pay attention during the training,…

Here’s a better idea, why doesn’t the TSA just refuse access to the passenger AND his or her items rather than allowing the passenger to fly after being negligent enough to ignore the rules?

Jim Huggins said...

Bob writes: Jim we didn't and we don't confiscate items. The items mentioned in this post were all illegal prohibited items that were confiscated by the police. See the part about passengers being cited by the police.

Nothing in the original post refers to actions by the police. In fact, the post never mentions the presence of any law enforcement personnel. The post merely says that "items were confiscated" and "passengers ... were cited". I think it's reasonable to ask who was the unnamed actor(s) doing the confiscating and citing --- especially given past confusion on this topic.

This is one reason why the use of the passive voice is to be avoided. :)

Anonymous said...

There should be a sign posted before every TSA airport checkpoint that reads "Abandon hope all ye who enter here."

That's about the truth. TSA checkpoints are the grand illegal search & seizure sinkholes for every law enforcement entity in the United States and half the world. You gotta love the TSA's whining "We confiscate nothing; we just rat you out to the confiscators. Every single one of them"

What is this about 'jurisdictional laws". The U.S. Constitution does NOT apply at TSA checkpoints, but local laws DO?! What's THAT about?! Is this to suggest that people flying from Montana need to know New York's defenselessness laws while on their way to Florida?

Caroline Sound said...

Halloween or not why do people still not consider what they have in their bag before going to the airport. 95% of the population can do it and are rigorous about checking! Why can't the 5% toe the line too!!!

Anonymous said...

Blogger Bob said...
The items mentioned in this post were all illegal prohibited items that were confiscated by the police.

OMG!! I didn't know that "a steak knife" was an "illegal" item. I have several in my kitchen right now! Should I expect a SWAT raid? (A raid which the TSA will not "set up", but will participate in.)

Anonymous said...

I suggest that your guest blogger offer relevant advice for passengers who are interested in protecting their private and authorized carry-on property from the "sticky" fingers of some TSA agents.

kellymae81 said...

Anon said: Care to explain TSA's sudden interest in posting these routine detections of items carried by people who you admit were not intending any harm to anyone?

1st of all, this isnt a "sudden" interest. Several posts do a run-down of recent 'catches'. 2nd of all, where did it say in the post that these people 'admitted' they didnt intend to do harm? And even if they did, are we just suppose to say "OK"? And on the note of bringing some of these items, even if they aren't real, realistic replicas are not allowed either. They can still create fear when in the hands of people who DO intend to do harm bc they ARE out there, whether you want to think they are or not..just sayin'.

kellymae81 said...

Jim Huggins said:I thought that TSA never "confiscated" anything from a passenger ... that passengers only "voluntarily surrendered" items. Care to explain?

I'll try. Its pretty simple actually. In the case when its illegal, it gets confiscated bc the passenger does not have a choice. Hence, the term 'voluntarily surrender' does not apply.

kellymae81 said...

Jim Huggins said:Nothing in the original post refers to actions by the police. In fact, the post never mentions the presence of any law enforcement personnel. The post merely says that "items were confiscated" and "passengers ... were cited". I think it's reasonable to ask who was the unnamed actor(s) doing the confiscating and citing --- especially given past confusion on this topic.

Are you seriously gonna get so uptight bc the post didnt give you an exact play by play of the incidents. Its common sense that police get involved/take over when illegal items are involved. THEY do the confiscating and THEY do the citing. Its not rocket science to figure that out! Have a nice day ;-)

Adrian said...

Steak knives are readily available in some of the restaurants in the terminal. No need to bring your own through the checkpoint.

kellymae81 said...

Anon said:I suggest that your guest blogger offer relevant advice for passengers who are interested in protecting their private and authorized carry-on property from the "sticky" fingers of some TSA agents.

I totally agree that it's sad that (some) TSA officers cant uphold their oath by keeping their "sticky" fingers off your stuff but you want to know the funny thing? Passengers will leave their belongings unattended in all areas of the airport and physically walk away for a whole lot longer than it takes to send your things thru the xray. And YET, they are only worried about the "sticky" fingers of TSA. Makes no sense to me. Ever thought about the sticky fingers of your fellow passengers? Hhhmmm? Or do you just want to bash the TSA bc you have nothing better to do? Just a thought!!

Anonymous said...

Sorry Bob, but fake bullets and guns are legal in this country.

Anytime I see an TSA update like this (a distraction), I look at what current news story has just hit the press.

And sure enough:
Tennessee has become the first state to install TSA Checkpoints on its highways.

RB said...

Anonymous said...
I suggest that your guest blogger offer relevant advice for passengers who are interested in protecting their private and authorized carry-on property from the "sticky" fingers of some TSA agents.

November 3, 2011 9:58 AM

....or how to protect your children from TSA employees who are in to kiddie porn like the two TSA employees from Orlando arrested this year.

And another screen shot captured.

Each censored submission is another piece of evidence of TSA First Amendment Civil Rights Violations at the hands of Bob Burns.

Anonymous said...

[[belt with the brass-knuckles buckle ... belt with bullets decorating the side ... Hand grenade belt buckle ... the boot...with the shiny bullets and handgun barrel heel...]]

In the interest of seeing that actual by-god weapons are not allowed on the plane, these items DO warrant a double-check. Once they are determined to NOT be weapons, however, there is no point in confiscating them [or demanding that passengers "voluntarily" choose between their property rights and the rights of movement, however you wish to phrase it].

Because the reality is, folks, if you can't tell the difference between a weapon and a decoration, then you have far greater problems in navigating Reality than you do simply keeping your latent despotism in check. You sound like the cretins in the 80s who railed against cartoons for being violent as the reason for teenage crime. "Cartoon ... real life ... hmmm, they look the same to me..."

Gimme a break.

rwilymz
http://dblyelloline.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

[[Mike Toreno said...
Here's an idea. Why doesn't the TSA start firing people who don't pay attention during the training,…

Here’s a better idea, why doesn’t the TSA just refuse access to the passenger AND his or her items rather than allowing the passenger to fly after being negligent enough to ignore the rules?]]

Here's the best idea yet:
Why doesn't TSA make their rules conform to the nation's rules that requires a search warrant before searching any citizen for any reason, and absent said warrant allow the passenger to be the free citizen in the free country he was, and often still IS, told he is?

rwilymz
http://dblyelloline.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

"And how many actual terrorists intent on taking an airplane did you catch?

Zero, right?"

All while TSA x-ray machines are expected to result in approximately 100 cases of cancer/yr. In the ten years since 9/11 that means there's more than one case of cancer for each passenger killed.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Bob said...
The items mentioned in this post were all illegal prohibited items that were confiscated by the police.


As "Anonymous" at 8:39am on 11/3 alluded to...

Bob, please tell me which items listed are "illegal prohibited items" as every item listed appears to be an item that can be purchased by a majority of the population legally.

That's not to say whether that person was legally allowed to possess that item - but, I believe that is beyond TSA's scope to determine, correct?

Can I presume you meant that the people mentioned 'allegedly* had the item in a location where it may be unlawful to possess said item'?

[*People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, correct? Or, is that another right we must surrender at the TSA checkpoint?]

Anonymous said...

"OMG!! I didn't know that "a steak knife" was an "illegal" item. "

Not just illegal but "illegal prohibited."

Mike Toreno said...

"Here’s a better idea, why doesn’t the TSA just refuse access to the passenger AND his or her items rather than allowing the passenger to fly after being negligent enough to ignore the rules?"

Seriously? You think imposing an extrajudicial punishment on airline passengers is a better idea than firing people at a government agency for not doing their jobs?

Wow, with people like you working for it, no wonder the TSA is the disaster it is.

RB said...

kellymae81 said...

1st of all, this isnt a "sudden" interest. Several posts do a run-down of recent 'catches'. 2nd of all, where did it say in the post that these people 'admitted' they didnt intend to do harm? And even if they did, are we just suppose to say "OK"? And on the note of bringing some of these items, even if they aren't real, realistic replicas are not allowed either. They can still create fear when in the hands of people who DO intend to do harm bc they ARE out there, whether you want to think they are or not..just sayin'.

November 3, 2011 11:08 AM

So is it TSA's job now to prevent fear?

These people you speak of, just where are they? Has been no sign of anyone trying to harm civil aviation in the US.

Anonymous said...

KellyMae81,

It's America. Your entitle to your opinions, however illogical and misguided, as long as they do not interfere with reasonable standards. The TSA's reputation is forever soured and there is nothing you or anyone can do about it. If you are uncomfortable with that fact, I suggest you find a more worthwhile organization to defend and a better use of YOUR time.

American Taxpayer.

RB said...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_LA_AIRPORT_SECURITY_BREACH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-11-02-11-15-57


Nov 2, 11:15 AM EDT

Los Angeles terminal closed over security breach

"Transportation Safety Administration spokesman Nico Melendez says what could have been drug paraphernalia was spotted in the man's carry-on bag at around 6 a.m. at Terminal 1, which houses Southwest Airlines."

........................
So exactly what is it that TSA is searching for?

Mike Toreno said...

Bob, when is the TSA going to start firing people for spending work time posting blog comments?

Jim Huggins said...

kellymae81 writes: Its common sense that police get involved/take over when illegal items are involved. THEY do the confiscating and THEY do the citing.

Do you really want to talk about common sense in the context of TSA screening procedures?

Is it common sense that drill bits are prohibited as carry on items, but small screwdrivers, which are indistinguishable from drill bits in many cases, are permitted?

Is it common sense that pilots and flight attendants are trusted enough by TSA to bring large quantities of liquids through a check point while on duty, but not while off duty?

Is it common sense for TSA to screen passengers at the boarding gate, when every passenger who entered the concourse was already screened?

Is TSA using common sense in refusing to follow the federal court order requiring it to collect public comment on the AIT machines it improperly deployed?

You'll forgive me if my view of TSA's "common sense" is somewhat cynical.

Anonymous said...

"I totally agree that it's sad that (some) TSA officers cant uphold their oath by keeping their "sticky" fingers off your stuff but you want to know the funny thing? Passengers will leave their belongings unattended in all areas of the airport and physically walk away for a whole lot longer than it takes to send your things thru the xray. And YET, they are only worried about the "sticky" fingers of TSA. Makes no sense to me. Ever thought about the sticky fingers of your fellow passengers? Hhhmmm?"

If I'm careless with my things and lose track of them, well, that's entirely different than having a government employee steal them, isn't it?

"Or do you just want to bash the TSA bc you have nothing better to do?"

I'll stop "bashing" the TSA when it stops violating my Constitutional rights, ok?

"Just a thought!!"

But not a very good one.

Anonymous said...

"1st of all, this isnt a "sudden" interest. Several posts do a run-down of recent 'catches'. 2nd of all, where did it say in the post that these people 'admitted' they didnt intend to do harm? And even if they did, are we just suppose to say "OK"?"

No, maybe you should just allow people to live their own lives free of illicit interference.

"And on the note of bringing some of these items, even if they aren't real, realistic replicas are not allowed either."

Care to cite the reference for what consitutes a realistic replica?

"They can still create fear when in the hands of people who DO intend to do harm bc they ARE out there, whether you want to think they are or not..just sayin'."

The TSA creates fear in the minds of much, if not most, of the traveling public. Shouldn't that make the TSA "not allowed?"

Welcome back, just saying. I didn't think you'd be able to avoid mocking the traveling public for long.

JoJo said...

Keep doing what you're doing, TSA, and don't listen to the haters! A police state is a small price to pay to be FREE! /sarcasm

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said…
Here's the best idea yet:
Why doesn't TSA make their rules conform to the nation's rules that requires a search warrant before searching any citizen for any reason, and absent said warrant allow the passenger to be the free citizen in the free country he was, and often still IS, told he is?

rwilymz
……
They call it “The Administrative Search Doctrine”. Here is some information on it you seem to be lacking… (http://www.novelguide.com/a/discover/eamc_01/eamc_01_00050.html)

Anonymous said…
Bob, please tell me which items listed are "illegal prohibited items" as every item listed appears to be an item that can be purchased by a majority of the population legally.
……
The items, for the most part, are themselves legal, but bringing them into the secured area of an airport is an illegal act.

Mike Toreno said...
Seriously? You think imposing an extrajudicial punishment on airline passengers is a better idea than firing people at a government agency for not doing their jobs?

Wow, with people like you working for it, no wonder the TSA is the disaster it is.
……
Just taking your irrational statement to its logical conclusion Mike. The person who brings these items to the checkpoint is in fact committing regulatory violation. Disallowing them and their item access to the secured areas of the airport seems to be a reasonable response. No punishment, just consequences. You DO believe in consequences don’t you?

Anonymous said...

kellymae81 said...
Anon said: Care to explain TSA's sudden interest in posting these routine detections of items carried by people who you admit were not intending any harm to anyone?

1st of all, this isnt a "sudden" interest. Several posts do a run-down of recent 'catches'.


These posts started just a few weeks ago. Hence 'sudden interest".

2nd of all, where did it say in the post that these people 'admitted' they didnt intend to do harm?

The TSA didn't have them arrested as terrorists, so they obviously didn't think they meant any harm.

Mike Toreno said...

Kellymae81, the reason people leave stuff within read of their fellow passengers is that they're ocnfident their fellow passengers won't steal it. They have faith in the integrity of their fellow passengers.

Anonymous said...

Is this to suggest that people flying from Montana need to know New York's defenselessness laws while on their way to Florida?

You gotta love the TSA's whining "We confiscate nothing; we just rat you out to the confiscators. Every single one of them"

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Yes they actually do... if you were driving from montana to florida and drove through new york (even though im not sure why you would) you would be expected to know the laws and follow them in every state you drove through so why wouldnt you be expected to know laws of the state you stop in while flying??? and seriously most of these items are illegal in alot of states so it dosnt matter.

*******
sooo are you telling me if you saw somthing illegal happening at your job or at the store or in a park or on the roads you WOULDNT report it? if we find it in the course of a search while doing our job of course were going to report illegal happenings were legally bound to

my word verifier is watcher lol

Anonymous said...

Sorry Bob, but fake bullets and guns are legal in this country.

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fair enough point BUT there are some places you just cant take those items because its an inapporpriate place for them you cant take a fake gun or fake bullets into a court house or a bank or into a school. a child would get expelled from school if they brought guns and bullets to school all the same fake or not, and a person would get into serious trouble if they brought a fake gun into a court house or a bank. see the point???

Anonymous said...

"....a child would get expelled from school if they brought guns and bullets to school all the same fake or not, and a person would get into serious trouble if they brought a fake gun into a court house or a bank. see the point???"

I *do* see the point: There are lots of stupid people out there who don't understand the difference between real and fake. The TSA is just one of many and likely the one that violates our Constitutional rights most grievously.

Mike Toreno said...

"The person who brings these items to the checkpoint is in fact committing regulatory violation."

What does that even mean?

"Disallowing them and their item access to the secured areas of the airport seems to be a reasonable response."

What does the regulation say about that? It doesn't provide for doing that, right?

So let me get this straight. You think allowing the TSA to prohibit passengers from boarding a plane, when no regulation allows such a prohibition, is a BETTER idea than firing federal employees for NOT DOING THEIR JOBS.

Wow, with employees like you, no wonder the TSA is the disaster it is.

Anonymous said...

mike toreno said:
"None of these things you mention are real weapons, and none of them constitute a threat. So why should we leave them at home?"

why arent replica items allowed? how about if some were to have their fake item on board and it falls out of their bag and passengers see it? you dont think that this would make for an interesting situation where an "innocent" person would more than likely be jumped on by other passengers? where is your common sense?

Anonymous said...

amulbunny's random thoughts said:
"You know what they say, 100 Attaboys are wiped out with 1 Oh #$%^"
thats the blog motto, tsa is guilty until proven innocent

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"sooo are you telling me if you saw somthing illegal happening at your job or at the store or in a park or on the roads you WOULDNT report it? if we find it in the course of a search while doing our job of course were going to report illegal happenings were legally bound to"

My job doesn't involving searching through people's property.

Since the TSA is doing a search without a warrant nothing they find should be allowed as evidence in court. The purpose of the search is to keep weapons off airplanes, doing anything beyond that should not be allowed.

Anonymous said...

OMG!! I didn't know that "a steak knife" was an "illegal" item. "
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In the state of Michigan there is actually a law on the books. It was created post 9/11. It states that anyone caught with a knife of any size or length at a security checkpoint can be charged with a misdemeanor. If you happen to get caught with it by the boarding gates you can be charged with a felony.

Anonymous said...

[[Here is some information on it you seem to be lacking…]]

I'm very very very well aware of the hallucination called "administrative search". Are YOU aware that there is no such allowance in the Constitution?

Unless the authority exists in the Constitution, it is not supposed to exist in reality. Yet it does. Which means that either the people who interpret the Constitution can't read, or they are inventing powers that don't exist for the purpose of expanding federal authority improperly.


[[where is your common sense?]]

Where is your adherence to the rules by which our nation was created? And which is more important?

rwilymz
http://dblyelloline.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

"In the state of Michigan there is actually a law on the books. It was created post 9/11. It states that anyone caught with a knife of any size or length at a security checkpoint can be charged with a misdemeanor. If you happen to get caught with it by the boarding gates you can be charged with a felony."

Of course, if I'm on the jury you need not worry about conviction.

Anonymous said...

Mike Toreno said...
"The person who brings these items to the checkpoint is in fact committing regulatory violation."

What does that even mean?
……
It means Mike that there are federal regulations governing what can pass the checkpoint and what cannot. CFR 49 defines TSA duties and responsibilities, as well as its authority limitations.
Try reading the CFR at the link below.
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title49/49tab_02.tpl
……

"Disallowing them and their item access to the secured areas of the airport seems to be a reasonable response."

What does the regulation say about that? It doesn't provide for doing that, right?
……

Actually, it does. You can find the information you need at the link above.

So let me get this straight. You think allowing the TSA to prohibit passengers from boarding a plane, when no regulation allows such a prohibition, is a BETTER idea than firing federal employees for NOT DOING THEIR JOBS.
……
I think that TSA knows more about what they are doing than you do.

[[Here is some information on it you seem to be lacking…]]

I'm very very very well aware of the hallucination called "administrative search". Are YOU aware that there is no such allowance in the Constitution?

Unless the authority exists in the Constitution, it is not supposed to exist in reality. Yet it does. Which means that either the people who interpret the Constitution can't read, or they are inventing powers that don't exist for the purpose of expanding federal authority improperly.
……
I think you are only reading that part of the Constitution that limits government, and not the part that spells out its responsibilities to its citizens. You might want to take a few minutes and review that part, it’s fairly important. Government has many responsibilities according to the constitution, and the folks here try really hard to ignore that when they “try” to argue their positions. Must be nice to ignore more than 50% of the constitution and only care about that part that you believe supports your position.


[[where is your common sense?]]

Where is your adherence to the rules by which our nation was created? And which is more important?

rwilymz
……
While I didn’t write that part, I’ll be happy to add my 2 cents here. Common sense is nowhere as common as some people think, and it is least common among the individuals who post here.

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Why doesn't the TSA start firing people who don't pay attention during the training.all thing i understand.

Gregory said...

I travel a lot and I know getting through security can be a pain but I also know how difficult it is to be a TSA officer. I do not envy them. The person who wore those boot is just plain dumb.

Thank you for keeping us safe and terror free in the skies since 9/11 God Bless.

Maya - Como Enamorar A Una Mujer said...

I will say this much. For all the people that complain about the "implemented process" of the TSA, or stress how they don't do their job, bear in mind that this is an ever-evolving process. This simply means a magical wand can't be waived in order to make things work properly... it is a process. Improvements will be made, things will evolve for the better.

Give credit when credit is due. It's easy to criticize, and even easier to make claims of how you would do things differently.

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Anonymous said...

The TSA violate all of our rights in every way.
We need to stand up to them, and not let them touch us or are children. If they try to use force, we need to stop them at all costs.
I do not fly. If they try to stop me on the road
I will not stop, if they try to touch my little girl I would give my life to stop them

kieu choe said...

I will say this much. For all the people that complain about the "implemented process" of the TSA, or stress how they don't do their job, bear in mind that this is an ever-evolving process. This simply means a magical wand can't be waived in order to make things work properly... it is a process. Improvements will be made, things will evolve for the better.

Give credit when credit is due. It's easy to criticize, and even easier to make claims of how you would do things differently.

Iklan Internet Murah Efektif Berkualitas Indonesia said...


Are you seriously gonna get so uptight bc the post didnt give you an exact play by play of the incidents. Its common sense that police get involved/take over when illegal items are involved. THEY do the confiscating and THEY do the citing. Its not rocket science to figure that out! Have a nice day ;-)

BUT there are some places you just cant take those items because its an inapporpriate place for them you cant take a fake gun or fake bullets into a court house or a bank or into a school. a child would get expelled from school if they brought guns and bullets to school all the same fake or not, and a person would get into serious trouble if they brought a fake gun into a court house or a bank.

Anonymous said...

It's a little late but as Halloween will be coming up again soon before you know it anyway. This is a sensible piece of advice for travelers by cautious staff. If you work in security you have to be cautious otherwise you ain't doing your job. Keep up the good work guys.

Anonymous said...

Yeah... Seriously?? I dont understand why doesnt TSA start just firing everyone and done let anyone aboard! Great idea to keep everyone off danger on airplane. Aint it??!!
Not liking it.

Hendry Dmitry said...

What is this about 'jurisdictional
laws". The U.S. Constitution does NOT
apply at TSA checkpoints, but local
laws DO?! What's THAT about?! Is
this to suggest that people flying
from Montana need to know New
York's defenselessness