Friday, July 2, 2010

Please Post Off Topic Comments Here

I have long allowed off topic comments. However, after many complaints from folks who would understandably like to stay on the subject, I am providing this post as a place to comment things that are way off topic with the current post.

I’ve added a link to this post on our sidebar so people will know to post off topic comments here.

You now have the option of subscribing to posts, so you’ll be able to keep up with the comments here if you so choose. So it’s not as if your comment is being exiled to the land of forgotten comments. We’ll be paying attention, and you can stay up to date with an RSS feed.

As much as we’d like to hear about your synchronized swimming club, I ask that all comments posted here remain TSA focused and adhere to TSA’s comment policy.

Blogger Bob
TSA Blog Team

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Anonymous said...

Is DHS/TSA really attacking opposing websites now?

Anonymous said...

When can we expect the TSA to set up intra-city checkpoints on the Interstates?

What kinds of documentation or permits would I need to travel from Dallas to Oklahoma City after these checkpoints are deployed?

What are the circumstances in which I'd be pulled from my vehicle and dragged off to a camp after a quick genital frisking, err, I meant asked to have a quick chat for a short delay with your friendly customer focused agents?

I know I've heard some of our legislators discussing this as a way to control the population, err, I meant, search for terrorists, and my own Congressman thinks TSA is doing a wonderful job serving the needs of the regime, err, I meant the traveling public.

Anonymous said...

If I'm detained by TSA for an extended genital search and my laptop and my iPad disappears from the belt while I'm separated from my possessions -- what are my procedures for reimbursement?

Why does TSA not publish this procedure?

Is it because TSA claims no responsibility and provides NO security over belongings?

Anonymous said...

Is airport security so weak that you are afraid of squealers?

Believe it or don't, real security is more than terrorizing children and the infirm.

Anonymous said...

Just when you thought the TSA could not sink lower:

http://www.news10.net/news/article.aspx?storyid=113529&provider=top&catid=188

Absolutely amazing.

Anonymous said...

"Since the TSA has authority over all of the interstate modes of travel, when should we expect the implementation of the current airline security measures across all methods of transportation?"

I'd like to know why the TSA sticks its idiotic nose into intrastate travel such as flights from LA to San Francisco?

Now I'm Scared said...

What about today's news reports of a vindictive home invasion and delisting of a pilot who posted concerns online about the lack of security for the airport employees on the tarmac? http://www.news10.net/news/article.aspx?storyid=113529&provider=top&catid=188

It really makes TSA and Homeland Security seem Orwellian

Anonymous said...

The TSA is not funny. What you are doing to the Constitution is not funny. You are not making us feel or BE safe. You scare me more than the threat of the terrorists at this point.

Anonymous said...

Wow, bumping the off-topic thread to the top is an interesting choice. Since it's in chronological order I learned that I would not want to be an amputee and have to fly, because I would be subjected to that good old TSA "random unpredictability" that endears your agency to so many millions of us. (Yes, Virginia, there is both a Santa Claus and sarcasm.)

At least the original amputee blogger found an acceptable resolution to her own unimaginable TSA encounter (http://amputeemommy.blogspot.com/2010/05/humiliation-and-now-im-angry.html), which she still refers to as "our California TSA horror".

If you're gonna do propaganda, do it up right and don't let the public say what's actually happening behind the scenes of the dog and pony show.

Anonymous said...

Bob,

Care to comment on the way TSA has reacted to this pilot pointing out the obvious?

http://www.news10.net/news/article.aspx?storyid=113529
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/pilot-hasseled-tsa-uncovering-security-breaches-major-airport/story?id=12470082&tqkw=&tqshow=WN

Indeed, shouldn't the TSA management be reprimanded instead for its focus on Security Theater rather than on actual security, as the pilot's comments illustrate?

Anonymous said...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/dhs-troll-attacks-anti-tsa-website/

Here is a fine example of your well trained, professional public servants in action.

A Homeland Security employee leaving profanity laden attack on members of the public for speaking up in defense of our rights.


Will this person be "retrained"? If I did that on my work computer, I would be FIRED!!

Anonymous said...

What kind of extra-judicial retribution will this tattle-tale get?

http://www.commondreams.org/further/2010/12/23

Anonymous said...

Your government never ceases to amaze me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3UWSgGI2TQ

Whatever happened to the shining city on the hill? When did it collapse to an open sewer?

Chris V said...

So, friend, what's your opinion- not TSA-approved Newspeak- about the patriot who showed us all on Youtube just how much of a joke airport security really is?

I'm, of course, referring to the ex-pilot and air marshal who videotaped the virtually non-existent security procedures in effect at SFO for airport employees.

As a bonus, we'd also like to hear what you think about the official reaction to this revelation. Specifically, how do you feel about marshals and deputies serving a warrant on this fellow and seizing his federally-issued sidearm?

Chris V said...

Oh, and pass my previous comment on to your superiors. That's not a request. Your employer, me, is ORDERING you to alert your superiors to the incident I described. That way, your agency cannot claim, as they did when contacted by a San Francisco television station, that they were unaware of the incident. Once you do as I demand of you, your superiors should be considered informed of the matter and, hence, be liable when the inevitable- and much hoped-for- lawsuits begin.

Anonymous said...

At a fast food restaurant in an airport I saw something I never saw happen at a TSA guardpost. A food service worker cleaned off a table and went back behind the counter and put on a clean pair of gloves before working with food.

When did you ever see a TSA guard change gloves?

Anonymous said...

Common sense? It isn't just dead in the US.

Jon Deniro said...

It seems that in addition to their utter contempt for the 4th amendment to the Constitution, the TSA also finds the 1st amendment to the Constitution inconvenient:

"Comments that make unsupported accusations will also not be posted."

Unsupported by whom? By you?

Anonymous said...

"A Homeland Security employee leaving profanity laden attack on members of the public for speaking up in defense of our rights.


Will this person be "retrained"? If I did that on my work computer, I would be FIRED!!"

This whole issue of "retraining" is pretty funny. Sitting in a classroom for a couple of days instead of a security checkpoint sounds like true punishment to me. Not punishment you say? That's right - there's been no admission of wrongdoing!

Write your Congressional Representative and demand that the TSA be brought under control.

Anonymous said...

Jon Deniro said...
It seems that in addition to their utter contempt for the 4th amendment to the Constitution, the TSA also finds the 1st amendment to the Constitution inconvenient:

"Comments that make unsupported accusations will also not be posted."

Unsupported by whom? By you?
___________________________________

It is not only unsupported allegations, it is ANY information or question that the REALLY don't want to publish.

Not only is the TSA violating the clearly expressed intention of the 4th Amendment, but it is also censoring Free Speech and thereby violating the First Amendment.

RB said...

http://www.examiner.com/manhattan-conservative-in-new-york/nyc-woman-sues-tsa-for-injuries-after-being-thrown-to-the-ground
...................

NYC woman sues TSA for injuries after being thrown to the ground
..................

"It is unclear what she may have said to provoke this degree of physicality, but on the security tape one agent can be seen taking his elbow and slamming her head onto the table."
..........

Just wondering who TSA is really working for.

Certainly not the citizens of the United States.

Comment Bob?

Anonymous said...

Still censoring the majority of my comments aren't you? You must be so proud to be engaging in exactly the kind of tactics that we criticized the old Soviet Union for, aren't you?

By now it is very apparent that the majority of Americans oppose what the TSA is doing, but you seem willing to try to force us to comply with your tactics and actions against our will.

THAT IS NOT FREEDOM, THAT IS THE ROAD TO TYRANNY.

Anonymous said...

When did traveling by air become probable cause?

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Anonymous said...

Where in the Constitution does it say anything about being secure from unreasonable searches?

Anonymous said...

Where is Blogger Bob and why isnt he responding? Maybe he got felt-up by the TSA.

I really want to know the answerto the question posted earlier:

"How can ticking off the entire population of the United States be a good idea?"

Charissa said...

A) The anonymous person who feels the need to know exactly how, when, why, and what Blogger Bob is doing is extremely annoying when people who are traveling just want to ask a simple question.
B) Blogger Bob, I was wondering if going through security with plastic flip flops do I still need to remove them and place them in a bin, when clearly I am not hiding anything in there? The floors in many airports I've traveled in the past year are disgusting and I'd rather not let my feet (socked or not) touch it.

Bubba said...

2010 TSA wrap-up:

Completely disregarded the public's privacy and rolled out whole body imaging like there is no tomorrow.

Completely ignored prior promises that whole body imaging would be a secondary screening method, and made it primary.

Completely ignored the most respected scientific journal in the World when it criticized the lack of scientific support for the SPOT program.

Completely ignored public health concerns and rolled out backscatter scanners without any human safety data available.

Went completely berserk and decided to touch genitals and stick hands inside people's pants as retaliation for not conceding to being virtually strip-searched.

Caught exactly zero terrorists.

What a year, TSA!!

Anonymous said...

Who writes your material? Are you a TV reality show or a sitcom? Day after day you pull these shenanigans and the world laughs and shakes their heads. Are they laughing with you?

Jane Doe said...

TSA,

It is now December 28th. I posted questions/comments on December 6th and 10th. I still have no response.

I will restate my initial requests/questions, and as I said before, I look forward to your timely response.

1. EXPLICITLY tell flyers if and when their genitals/breasts/buttocks will be touched in explicit terms. This should be mandatory.

2. Given I have a family history of cancer and I am a sexual assault survivor, both of your options are intensely unrealistic to me, regardless of your incorrect assertions that the machines are entirely innocuous. Please inform me of a type of clothing that will immediately show your employees that there is nothing under my clothes that needs their attention. My suggestion was a full body, thin lycra/spandex suit. I will also suggest my underwear or a bikini. These options seem to eliminate need of search.

I will add another request:

3. REQUIRE TSA employees to change gloves regardless of whether the flyer asks them to, and do so in plain sight of the flyer. New gloves should NOT be taken out of a pocket; they should be obviously unused and taken out of a box of new gloves. The law suits could be quite severe if you were to search someone who was wearing a skirt with no underwear and your employee touched his/her genitals/inner thigh with a gloved hand that had been used to search many other people, regardless if that flyer asked for them to be changed. Given the number of individuals you will be touching this seems obvious. I (and I'm assuming many would as well) consider this similar to a doctor not washing his hands before seeing a patient (as they wash their hands regardless of whether or not they'll be touching intimate body parts).

Please respond.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I see that you still are hiding the "Enhanced Pat Down" Blog, if you really think the public thinks that the GROIN SEARCH is such a good idea, why don't you put that Blog back on the Main Page?

Or are you content acting like they government censors in the old Soviet Union did when THEY censored the public and defied FREEDOM?


Something tells me that this will be one of the 75% of my posts that won't get published, wanna prove me wrong?

Anonymous said...

I realize that this could be a stupid question, but I have searched through TSA's website and I can't seem to find anything to clarify my query: Can I have a sewing machine in my carry-on? I don't trust it to the baggage handlers, and I would like to keep it from any unnecessary damage.
Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Could someone please explain how a woman in Oklahoma can be held in public undress while in a wheelchair whilst in Boston real hazardous cargo sails through security and explodes on the tarmac in Florida?

I know why I won't fly.

Anonymous said...

I would like to post a positive comment concerning my experience with the TSA during this holiday travel season.

I was traveling domestically to Texas from Michigan this Christmas and heard from many people what a fun time I was in for, X-Rays, pat-downs, invasive treatment by security personel,,,etc etc.

First let me say that my experience was nothing like I was lead to believe. Even though it was the holiday travel season and there were lots of folks out traveling, all the TSA personel I encountered were courteous, polite, and pleasant, while still maintaining a level of professionalism that allowed me to feel safe while traveling.

If more of the traveling public would take a few minutes to do a little research on the policies, guidelines, and tips published by TSA and then follow them when traveling, alot of the issues that arise could be eliminated.

I just wanted to take a few minutes sitting at the gate waiting for my flight to share a few positive comments about TSA.

Thanks for a safe and problem-free travel experience and a job well done.

Signed,

A statisfied Holiday traveler !

Anonymous said...

TSORon said
"And denying a person who is such a risk access to a commercial aircraft does not harm them or mark them as a criminal, nor does it impinge on their civil rights."
----
Oh, but it does TSORon, and your agency is going to have to learn that the hard way, it appears.

Anonymous said...

So Tammy Banovac has been banned from a flight AGAIN? Because of the suspicious contours of her buttocks? REALLY, TSA? What exactly did you think she had hidden in there? Why didn't your TSOs allow her to strip, as she offered, to establish that her buttocks are innocent, and then let her take her flight?

Or was this, possibly, retaliation? Remember, Dr. Banovac is the wheelchair-bound former surgeon who was previously refused entrance to her flight by TSA, despite wearing only a bra and underwear through the checkpoint, supposedly because they found traces of nitrate on her skin--though that incident, too, sounds suspiciously like another example of retaliation for her daring to protest the hideously invasive "pat-downs" she and other disabled people receive from the TSA due to the apparent crime of being in a wheelchair.

And by the way folks, as a farmer, I know that nitrate is a common ingredient in fertilizers--not necessarily an indication of illegal activity. So be careful at TSA checkpoints if you've visited a farm recently.

Bob, please explain:
1) what exactly I need to avoid in terms of my buttock contours so that I'm allowed to fly, or was this just plain and simple retaliation--because that's sure what it sounds like;
2) again, how long TSA procedures allow people to be held without suspicion at a gate without access to a restroom, water, a chair, or a phone to call law enforcement, a lawyer/relatives/etcetera (this is in reference to the breast milk screening incident in which the woman was held nearly an hour because TSO officers supposedly didn't know the procedures for screening breast milk, even though the woman had a copy of the procedures with her, and even though she'd been through the checkpoint the previous week with the same request). Bob has REFUSED TO ANSWER THIS OFT-REPEATED QUESTION): so how long is it that's "proper procedure," Bob: two hours? three hours? four hours? Have you all planned what to do if the person in question is a minor? a senior? someone with medical needs? what if they have an asthma attack in there, from stress-what do you do then? what if they need an insulin injection?
3) Who is going to be paying for the settlement of the lawsuits TSA is setting itself up for by acting so stupidly--oh, that's right. Stupid me. TAXPAYERS will be paying for it. That's me.

Anonymous said...

Can you tell us the appropriate terms of address for your officers? I don't want to get put in the penalty box and fined for using the wrong title.

Do we call all TSOs "officer" or do we use different titles for those of you with more stripes?

Anonymous said...

During a recent security screen, the swab of the palms of my hands came up positive for explosives. I underwent the enhanced pat down and all of my luggage was swabbed as well but came up negative. The only chemicals that I had handled in the past week was gasoline. In fact I had gassed up my rental car some 45 minutes prior to the screening. Will gasoline cause a positive on the palm screen?

Anonymous said...

If only we would look at the big picture and adjust priorities accordingly.

Sarah said...

I had some items taken from my checked luggage, specifically two bottles of hot pepper sauce when I was in Jackson, MS. I have had several problems trying to get them back. I was also wondering which items are allowed to be confiscated from checked luggage and is pepper sauce one of those items. Also, any help to resolve getting my items back would be appreciated.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:
"By now it is very apparent that the majority of Americans oppose what the TSA is doing, but you seem willing to try to force us to comply with your tactics and actions against our will.

THAT IS NOT FREEDOM, THAT IS THE ROAD TO TYRANNY."

Why do you assume the TSA is concerned about freedom? It is manifestly not.

Anonymous said...

We begin a new year with still no updated Whole Body Imaging Privacy Impact Assessment. The last WBI PIA was way back in July 2009. It is obvious why you refuse to update, or publish a new PIA, because you know, and we all know, that privacy has not been protected but has been continually and insidiously eroded month by month, year by year.
What an utter disgrace the TSA is.

Bubba said...

So now that we are in 2011, are we FINALLY going to get a response to that article in the World's top scientific journal Nature questioning the science behind the SPOT program.

Or are you going to continue to ignore it and wish we would forget about it?

Anonymous said...

When did we become a nation of whiners? The American way is to do what the government tells you to do. The little people that spend their time criticizing our leaders endanger us all.

Anonymous said...

Help me out here, Bob. Any question I have concerning the low educational level required to be a TSO and/or the unskilled nature of the work is invariably censored.

Why? Readers can see for themselves the prerequisites to be a TSO (GED *or* one year security experience) so why are my posts censored?

Anonymous said...

"Help me out here, Bob. Any question I have concerning the low educational level required to be a TSO and/or the unskilled nature of the work is invariably censored.

Why? Readers can see for themselves the prerequisites to be a TSO (GED *or* one year security experience) so why are my posts censored?"

Bravo, Bob. Now stop censoring or I'll have House staffers look into that too.

Start kissing up to Rep Mica, Bob! Your days of stomping on the American citizenry are numbered.

Sean said...

TSA has recently stolen or misplaced $150 worth of merchandise from my luggage. Who do I contact?

Anonymous said...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/tsa-bans-bikini-woman-buttocks/

So now we have to conform to a certain body type/profile to fly?

Of course the woman is going to have a 'unusual contour around the buttocks area..!' Between the plastic surgery and being in wheel chair I surprised she has much of a buttocks area at all.

Anonymous said...

Why are you still continuing to HIDE the discussion board pertaining to the PUNITIVE BREAST, BUTTOCKS AND GENITAL SEACHES?

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear, right?

Gerry said...

All the people posting here need to "GET A LIFE". I'm here just to see what was going on. The Constitution does not say anything about guaranteeing your right to fly. If you don't want to follow the rules, then I recommend travel by car, train, boat, bicycle, or your own two feet. Leave the flying to others, like me, who would rather be checked than blown up.

Anonymous said...

http://wewontfly.com/tsa-photocopies-a-mans-credit-cards-and-other-personal-documents

Since when does the TSA have the right to do this?

Arctic Patriot said...

Here's a theory that is waaaaay out there...

We are living in a free nation, with a government that respects its citizens' rights.

Told you it was way out there.

AP

RB said...

Gerry said...
All the people posting here need to "GET A LIFE". I'm here just to see what was going on. The Constitution does not say anything about guaranteeing your right to fly. If you don't want to follow the rules, then I recommend travel by car, train, boat, bicycle, or your own two feet. Leave the flying to others, like me, who would rather be checked than blown up.

January 4, 2011 1:15 PM

.............
Gerry, your like many who apparently didn't pay attention during civics classes.

The Constitution does not grant rights to the citiznes but limits the federal government.

Maybe you ought to take a couple of hours and read the Constitution.

Anonymous said...

To Gerry's comment yep silly people thinking we have rights! They have a name for people like that it's Americans. people who don't defend their rights soon won't have any rights left to worry about. I personally would rather get blown up than to give up all my rights as an American. But each man has to be true to his own heart, or just go for what's easy and convienient I guess.

Myztri said...

What say ye?
Here we go again...

http://www.anktangle.com/2011/01/tsa-x-rayed-my-breastmilk.html

redstickla said...

My wife uses a tens unit, electronic muscle stimulator. She is traveling to Israel. Can this unit be included in carry-on?

Eric said...

I submitted a Talk to TSA comment several weeks ago about JFK and requested a reply. I have not received one. What to do?

Ayn R. Key said...

I thought breastmilk didn't need to be irradiated?

But it happened again.

Bob, I've asked you to do a blog entry on the gap between "this is procedure" and "what happens on the front line." You really should.

In fact I'd make it an imperative if I were you.

Front line versus policy.

Do it.

Heather said...

I work for a company called Tsa-Kwa-Luten Lodge, a resort on Quadra Island, BC, Canada. I have requested that your company be listed as TSA and as Transportion Security Administration in the US telephone directory. The reason for this is when someone calls the US directory and asks for the number for TSA, they are given OUR toll free number because the 1st 3 letters of our name is TSA and you are ONLY listed as "Transporation Security Administration." I have contacted your company once by telephone and twice by email about your listing with the US telephone directory and have gotten nowhere. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE list your company as TSA. Would someone in your company PLEASE deal with this. Thank you.

Jon said...

This is not a complaint, but a request. Although I understand that the TSA is trying to become more "casual" in their public perception, it has gone a little far. When I read information on the TSA website in regards to holiday travel, I shouldn't have to read through "comical" information (mistletoe, snowmen, etc.) This isn't the appropriate place for that type of humor and it isn't helping anything.

Bubba said...

You have still not answered that in depth article in the World's leading scientific journal Nature published last May and stating point blank that there is no scientific basis for your procedures.

Shameful.

We won't forget.

Anonymous said...

TSA needs to comment on this article, which describes procedural shortcomings, punitive additional searches, and flawed methodology on the part of TSA. Care to comment Bobbie ol' Boy?

http://gizmodo.com/5696160/

Abby S. said...

I have been trying to find information on the current state of the Aviation Security Advisory Committee. It is unclear from the TSA website that this committee is still in existence. While the original charter is available, the most recent documentation is from May 2006. Per the charter, this information (including notice of future meetings) is supposed to be made public. I emailed the TSA "Contact Us" page to request this information, and 6 weeks later I was emailed the FAQ list for flying. I had also emailed the TSA Omsbudsman, who then forwarded to the regular TSA email so I just received another copy of the FAQ. As this is an important committee who is supposedly made up of all stakeholders, I'd like to be able to review the information. I would be very interested to get any information about this committee.

RB said...

Bob you posted the following on 11/27/2010.

"As far as the Delete-O-Meter, we created it to show that we’re not really deleting that many comments. Currently, the number is at 5,488."

It is now 01/12/2011 and the Deleted Comments has skyrocketed to 7,082 in a relatively short time.

That is one thousand five hundred ninety four (1,594) comments that TSA has not posted in just a little over a month.

1,500 plus postings. How many of those not posted met all posting guidelines?

How is the public to know that TSA is acting in good faith?

Make the archive of submitted but not posted comments available to the public so we can decide if the items failed to meet TSA's Anti-First Amendment guidelines.

Anonymous said...

Hi Bob!

Any chance we could get your comment on this?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/stupid/tsa-pays-breast-exposure-suit

Its where the TSA picked a 24 year old blond for one of those special pat downs and exposed her breasts in front of the crowd.

You TSA guys apparently laughed and joked about it. The story is she only sued because TSA would not apologize.

Would love to hear your spin..err. take on this.

RB said...

Bob, since you successfully move the Breast Milk thread into oblivion I think we should continue the questions here so others can see your lack of response to legitimate questions.

So here is question 1.

Bob, still waiting for your explanation of how proper procedure was followed when TSA employees committed a felony by taking a person hostage and holding that person for an extended period of time.

I fail to understand your lack of response. Are your superiors preventing you from answering or is it more along the lines of lack of character on your part Bob?

You posted the claim that policy was properly followed yet seem incapable of supporting that claim.

Bob, did you lie which would be an offense against TSA's Core Values and if you did why haven't you resigned?

justmyopinion said...

Well Bob, I guess you solved the problem about the lady who was detained because of her breast milk. The entire subject blog has been removed. Really goes to show that your creditibility and that of TSA as a whole is ZERO just as I and many others believe. But I would still like to hear your explaination of how that situation was handled correctly.

Concerned Observer said...

"...when someone calls the US directory and asks for the number for TSA, they are given OUR toll free number because the 1st 3 letters of our name is TSA and you are ONLY listed as "Transporation Security Administration." "

So this is where all the complaints are REALLY going!

On a more serious note, I hope that this is being taken care of.

Anonymous said...

I would also like to request that the issue of the "physical body searches" be included on the Blog main page. There was one on this issue before, but it seems to be gone.

Anonymous said...

Just heard that the lady whose shirt was pulled down exposing her breasts settled in court.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/stupid/tsa-pays-breast-exposure-suit

So the TSA paid her off with taxpayer funds. Exactly what happened to the TSO who did it?

RB said...

Bob, still waiting for your response to how proper procedure were followed when TSA employees committed a felony by taking a person hostage at a TSA checkpoint.

I among others spoke well of you when you answered a few questions a few weeks back but it seems you have crawled back into your little cave of silence and buried your head in the sand because we are asking questions about YOUR STATEMENTS.

You cannot expect your statements to go unchallenged when they are obviously not truthful.

Your Oath was to defend the United States Constitution not to lie for TSA.

If you cannot honor your Oath then I call for your immediate resignation.

justmyopinion said...

I regularly review the TSA blogs since I am interested in comments from other American citizens and those posted by TSA only to find very few comments or replys from TSA concerning the comments or questions from the American public. It appears to me that these blogs are just a sham or should I say a shame because TSA seldom or ever offers answers or replys to comments or questions submitted by the flying public. These blogs could be very helpful with providing some very important information and much needed explainations about how and why TSA reacts to certain events involving the traveling public. May I suggest, if TSA has no intent of providing information other than the self serving TSA centered PR, TSA should consider terminating the blog and saving the country some money. Really interested in what others think.

lovinangels said...

Breast milk again being forced through xray screening...

http://bit.ly/hR0bu7 Of course, I'll be following through with a note for my Congressman.

My question to you is this... I receive training EVERY DAY as a server. Why can't you guys seem to manage not to harass nursing moms?
also, how do I unsubscribe to post comments here? I'm getting crazy amounts of updates.

Anonymous said...

What is TSA's opinion on the
following story? Are travelers
not permitted to say they're
uncomfortable with the pat-down?


http://austin.ynn.com/content/top_stories/276130/austinite-detained-by-tsa

Marshall's SO said...

Ayn R. Key, here's another example of the fine work of the TSA. They forced parents to open jars of baby food for testing:

"This same EXACT thing happened to me on December 21st, traveling from Phoenix to Chicago, and then again on January 1st, traveling back. I cannot breastfeed and have a breastmilk donor for my daughter. Going to Chicago, I traveled with approximately 300 ounces of frozen milk. Going home, I had 5 bottles of liquid breastmilk but no frozen left. TSA required all of my milk to be X-rayed AND tested with those strips. I had to remove the tops off all the bottles so they could test them. They also made me open all of our brand new and unopened 4 ounce jars of baby food to test those. It was ridiculous. We almost missed our plane. We put the 300oz of frozen in a styrofoam cooler so we didn't have to worry about taking back a "good" cooler on our way home. They forcefully opened it, chipping tons of styrofoam off and then loosely taped it back together when they were done, with about 3 strips of tape. It was awful. If you EVER get any further with this complaint, I am more than happy to add my story to it! I don't have names of any TSA employees or anything but I will gladly share my story."

Anonymous said...

For the sake of argument, let's say all the "privacy" measures in place are true and fail-proof. No one ever gets into the naked scanner room with a camera phone, they never see you, and the photos aren't stored.

Does it make anyone feel better to think that there's only one person perving over their naked body for only a few minutes?

Even with the privacy measures in place, the naked photo agent and the agent "assisting" the passenger can and must talk to each other. What is to stop them from relaying details to each other that are of a prurient rather than security related nature? Do you want the photo agent telling the one seeing you how many genital piercings you have or whether your breasts are real? Because even with the "privacy measures" in place, they still can.

Anonymous said...

This blog is a victory for TSA. When I look at the whining and griping of a few individuals compared the the vast number of people that fly each day I feel the public acceptance of security in our daily lives.

If the events of the recent few weeks has shown us anything, it is the need for more security. TSA has created the blueprint.

Certainly travel of all kinds should be included, not just airliners. Too, living areas should be randomly checked for contraband. The government has the capacity, now is the time to use it. Let's put the country on lockdown to protect us from our enemies that are bent on violence.

TSA has led the way.

Anonymous said...

I want to know the answer to this as well. It seems that the TSA is not only intent on destroying the 4th Amendment, but is working to erode the 1st Amendment as well.

What is TSA's opinion on the
following story? Are travelers
not permitted to say they're
uncomfortable with the pat-down?


http://austin.ynn.com/content/top_stories/276130/austinite-detained-by-tsa

Anonymous said...

Ben said...

I would like to extend my gratitute to the TSA personnel from Miami International Airport, Atlanta International Airport, Salt Lake International Airport and Twin Falls Airport for their generosity and care provided to me and my wife. I am a wounded soldier that went to a camp in Idaho last week. These personnel showed me a high level of professionalism and understanding for a wounded soldier. Keep providing an excellent work by being vigilant and watching over the security in our airports. May God bless them and their families.

Anonymous said...

"Are travelers not permitted to say they're uncomfortable with the pat-down?"

It's considered "sass" and it can't be allowed by any authority. Not in schools, military, police. TSA authority figures, too.

Get used to it. It's with us now and forever.

Anonymous said...

I just read the account of the incident involving Michael Haendal in the Austin airport and I must say I am in complete disbelief. How can TSA justify calling the police and having someone arrested because they simply say they don't like being frisked? Just another case that shows TSA employees are just a bunch of power hungry, arrogant individuals. This gentleman had to endure being arrested, handcuffed, the subsequent court procedures and then pay a ONE DOLLAR fine for his gross violation. Just how much did this act by TSA cost the citizens of this country? But, I guess TSA had to show this man who was in charge. Any comments you may wish to post justifying or explaining this action would be greatly appreciated. But, I doubt we will hear anything from TSA. Why should TSA ever be expected to provide an explaination when they are the MAN?

Anonymous said...

You ran a test in Charlotte.

You involved an innocent minor in it.

What on earth is wrong with you people?

"The ticket agent chose a passenger's name at random, which just happened to be an unaccompanied minor"

The Jet Blue agent involved was fired.

Your staff member who put an innocent minor at risk for a traumatic experience deserves the same. At least.

Even if it was not an innocent minor, you should not be involving ANY traveler in these tests.

I try to keep a positive attitude about you. You do not help.

RB said...

Bob you want to go through a refresher for us and describe the various means to screen breast milk that does not require taking a person hostage?

RB said...

I submit posts, TSA does not accept these post yet the Delete-O-Meter stays on the same number day after day.

Trying to hide how much censorhsip in violation of the First Amendment is being done by Federal government?

What was that Oath?

Protect and Defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign or domestic, but not so much if a TSA employee...

Concerned Observer said...

If a comment is not approved, it should be deleted unless another person will be reading it over to see if it should be approved. My comment was not approved and it was less snarky than a lot of other comments that have been approved.

I will reiterate my honest question and invite any person in the employment of the TSA to make a numerical reply.
How long is a reasonable amount of time for a passenger to be delayed at the screening area (once they have reached the front of the line)?

My honest opinion is 15 minutes tops, but please correct me if my opinion is off by more than 5 minutes.

*screenshot saved

Ayn R. Key said...

Apparently if you go through the checkpoint and then purchase a beverage, that makes the TSA suspicious.

I've stripped out the word that might offend the delicate sensibilities of anyone whose job it is to grope the sensitive areas of others (for pay), so it should be possible to approve this comment this time.

What Is This New TSA Deviltry?

While sitting in the boarding area of Denver International Airport, I noticed a pair of TSA leering menacingly over the assembled mass of potential terrorists. Rather than deploying the usual intimidation factor, I noticed these two seemed to be looking for something specific. Was it the Chimera virus, anthrax, or weapons?

No, they have identified a much more lethal substance: airport vendor-purchased soft drinks!!! They were forcing people to remove the lids from their drinks (which must have been purchased post screening because none of them were less than 3 ounces of the deadly elixir). One held a test strip of some sort directly over the mouth of the container. This was after number two had squirted a chemical from an unmarked plastic bottle all over it!!! I overheard the potential terrorist ask the blueshirt what they were looking for. Their grumbled reply was ‘dangerous fumes.’

What is this chemical? Is it safe to ingest? Assuming the boys in blue are former record store employees and not trained chemists, how are they going to keep some of this chemical from dripping into drinks? Why are they doing this anyway? Isn’t the 3-1-1 rule sufficient to prevent large quantities of potential liquid explosive within the secure area? Are they not sufficiently screening and policing in-airport vendors or are they suspicious of a potential conspiracy from within Schlotzky’s?

Anonymous said...

alright ayn another great one. so everyone complains about how items that are sold at in the airport arent screened well it appears that you have pointed out a way that the tsa is screening them. so now its a problem? i would have thought that would have praised the tsa for answering a common question here on the blog. after having my liquids inspected one time i asked was the "chemical" was and guess what its water. i cleaned this up as not to offend you just like you did as not to offend the tsa.

Anonymous said...

I think Phil Mocek's case bounces the "domestic extremist" label back into its true home- TSA.

Anonymous said...

"I think Phil Mocek's case bounces the "domestic extremist" label back into its true home- TSA."


When I saw the video on YouTube I got flashbacks of East German border guards shooting down people who only wanted freedom. We're just a step away.

Mr. Mocek is the poster child for people standing cruel incompetent government.

Anonymous said...

Concerned posters on this blog have repeatedly brought up the dangerous situation TSA has created with its backed-up lines at TSA, with large number of us in a crowded area waiting to be made "safe." I've yet to see an answer that showed that TSA took the threat seriously.

Well, now it's happened: a deadly attack on passengers in an airport rather than in an airplane--in Russia, admittedly. (Though it actually did happen, before, at LAX--http://articles.cnn.com/2002-07-04/us/la.airport.shooting_1_el-al-gunman-yakov-aminov?_s=PM:US). It's clear that some terrorists have figured out what's been obvious to those of us standing in line for many years. YOU, TSA, have created a perfect terrorist target: we, the passengers, standing in your crowded TSA lines. Think of what one man did in Tucson with a legal weapon, legally obtained, and think of what a determined terrorist or terrorists could do in an airport at the TSA line. I am now indeed scared--not to fly, but to stand in your lines!

PLEASE explain how you are addressing this IMMEDIATELY. Because your scanners, your required removal of shoes, and "enhanced pat downs" are making LONGER lines, with passengers LESS able to escape or tackle terrorists if need be (I'm imagining trying to run with a shoe half off, through the cables and posts defining the TSA line). YOU, TSA, have created a LARGER, MORE ATTRACTIVE target for the terrorists. How is this protecting us?

This is a serious question, a serious issue, and I see NO sign TSA has taken it with the seriousness it should.

RB said...

Bob what are TSA rules on photography at the Albuquerque International Sunport airport?

Will TSA call the police and push for my arrest if I video log my travels through this airport?

Will a TSA TSM put his hands on me to make me stop filming?

Will TSA stand idly by while TSA employees assault civilians and take no corrective action?

RB said...

I have posted before with observations of TSA and airline ramp employees entering the secure areas of some airports with roll-aboard bags and in one case approximately 18 liters of beverages.

Also video exist showing TSA employees entering checkpoints with backpacks and not being screened.

These people do not receive 100% screening and have every opportunity to introduce contraband.

Given the recent events in Moscow how does TSA justify allowing this practice and how does TSA justify not screening everyone who enters the secure areas of an airport?

Ayn R. Key said...

To my critic who has no "shift key"...

I'd take the time to refute you but I don't want you to think I am censoring you.

Anonymous said...

So, 80 guns can get through security but TSA has people arrested for "bad attitude"? Is there no shame?

Anonymous said...

Actions speak louder than words department: Eighty guns breeze through TSA checkpoints but mother's milk and medical necessities cause passenger harassment. Murmur a complaint and you're under arrest.

It wouldn't be so bad if it were just TSA, but police, prosecutorial and judicial authorities are in on the game. Little wonder respect for authority is at such a low.

Anonymous said...

i was detained and groped by tsa officials yesterday after my refusal of the scanner

Anonymous said...

got love it.

Phil Mocek found “NOT GUILTY” by Albuquerque jury

Mr. Mocek did not testify, and the defense rested on Friday without calling any witnesses or presenting any evidence. The jury found that even without rebuttal, the TSA and Albuquerque police had failed to satisfy their burden of proving any of the four charges

Maybe you guys havent heard but TSA is becomeing a joke. one that sorely needs to get its act togeter/ focus on real security rather than theater.
the more you act like Cartman "Respect ma Athorita!" the more we are going to point and laugh.

Anonymous said...

Anon said:
"This gentleman had to endure being arrested, handcuffed, the subsequent court procedures and then pay a ONE DOLLAR fine for his gross violation. "

The travesty is that he had to pay any fine at all, even one designed by the judge to show his disgust at the prosecutor.

TSA is a joke that needs to be dissolved. Contact your Congressional representatives and voice your disgust at this shockingly unAmerican organization.

RB said...

http://popdose.com/the-tsa-a-little-temporary-safety/

FLL, another TSA employee saying photography is not allowed at a TSA checkpoint.

Bob, you posted this big ol piece about photography and it seems either you are wrong or TSA's Highly Trained Workfarce is wrong.

Which is it?

Why are TSA employees interferring with peoples rights if taking pictures is not illegal in TSA checkpoints?

Will you at least respond to this question when you come out of hiding since all others are going unanswered?

YorSubs said...

I'm interested that you omit to comment on the biggest TSA story in the history of the TSA
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/25/passenger_acquitted/
(I suspect that this comment will be deleted, or, alternatively, if you believe in freedom, free speech, honesty and decency, you will allow this comment ... I hope that freedom, free speech, honest and decency still exist in the world ...)

Anonymous said...

After a recent private room pat down identification was demanded of me and that information was transferred to an official form. What is the purpose of taking private data? My suspicion is not positive.

Concerned Observer said...

Bob (or whomever else has the power to do so), with all due respect, it's past time to update the Delete-O-Meter. Please, please, please do so!

Anonymous said...

For those of you wanting to complain about Bob's constant lies, half-truths and spin, asking for his supervisor's name won't work. Bob and the other bloggers won't pass your request on to their supervisor so no action will be taken.

However, you could e-mail the TSA OIG and file a complaint. Alternatively, there is also the TSA Ombudsman.

Also, if you e-mail TSABlog@tsa.dhs.gov and put "complaint" in the subject line you may get a response from someone who can act on it. I got this info from the TSA OIG.

I doubt this post will appear in the Mocek post comments, so I have also posted it in several other places.

Anonymous said...

I recently experienced my first airport body scan. I was traveling from bwi to hrl. Out of bwi I did the normal procedures, shoes off, laptop out, and sent my carry on things through the scanner. I stepped into the scanner and was cleared. Returning from hrl, i did the same thing and was then asked to step to an "anti-microbial" mat just otside of scanner. I was then given another pat down while on the mat. after going through the scanner, why was the pat down needed? It seems that the actions by TSA contradict the effectiveness and reasoning for using the body scan technology....

Anonymous said...

Bob, You've failed to post my last two posts about this. Why?

Ricky German, arrested this week, is another TSA agent who has demonstrated that not only can TSOs not be trusted, but there is clearly a failure of supervisory oversight. He actually stole a passenger's laptop right there at security. Luckily it was caught on TSA's own video. But for some reason it took OVER A MONTH for charges to be filed--funny that TSA moved much more quickly to charge, say, Mr. Mocek. And one article indicates that he continued to work at TSA all this time. (I find this hard to believe--please Bob tell me it's not true and provide corroboration). This TSA agent--along with the child pornographers and kidnappers who've also been TSA employees--are the people we are supposed to trust to take us, if we're selected for secondary "private" screening, into a back room without video or oversight of any kind? Sure, we can have a witness, if we know to ask for one, but guess what? Some of us travel alone...It's only a matter of time before a TSO commits an actual sexual assault or extortion on a passenger poor passengers. And then it will be his or her word against the passenger's.

Shame on you, Bob, and every other person working for this travesty of an organization.

Anonymous said...

Bob or West,
When I go into a scanner, is the TSO allowed to touch me--without asking first--to reposition my body as he/she wants? I ask because in early January, flying out of DTW, I informed the TSO that due to a medical condition, it would take me a little time to raise my arms into position. I was doing so, but instead of waiting, the TSO grabbed my arms and lifted them up. This hurt like hell, frankly--I have pinched nerves in my back. I yelped. She smiled, backed out of the machine, and at the end said, "There, sweetie, that was quick." On top of hurting me and touching me with unchanged gloves (I had no chance to ask that they be changed), she was incredibly rude. "Sweetie?" I'm neither senile nor 5 years old. I'm a professional middle-aged woman with a lot more education than the twenty-something who treated me this way, and I consider her behavior and words very offensive.
QUESTION: Is her grabbing and positioning my arms without my permission valid ground for a complaint by me, or it part of standard operating procedures? If so, I'll have to opt-out next time though I really, really don't want to.
Please answer.

Anonymous said...

Bob or West,
Can you please explain why Memphis TSO Ricky German was not fired or suspended pending investigation after he was caught on TSA videotape hiding a passenger's laptop in his own jacket and throwing away the paperwork showing the owner's name?

http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13929125

Because right now, it sure looks as though this man isn't just a bad apple, but a bad apple who works without appropriate supervision in an organization that really doesn't care about passenger's belongings, let alone their dignity and Constitutional rights.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

How does TSA compile its anti-terror watchlists? Why, for example, was someone placed on the watchlist because he opposed off-shore drilling?
http://www.examiner.com/headlines-in-san-francisco/mark-ruffalo-on-terrorist-advisory-list-women-strip-for-tsa-obama-lip-stitches

Do you place members of the public on the watchlist for posting their opposition to TSA procedures here or on forums such as Flytertalk? That is, for exercising their First Amendment right to freedom of expression?

Not that I really think you'll answer, but we all need to keep asking the questions. And maybe if we do, I hope that maybe some of the TSA folks who have consciences (West, for example) will actually read these and either quit or start working--really working--toward reform from within. Because TSA folks, I know you mostly, individually, mean well, but this is all beginning to sound like McCarthyism in action.

Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it. And the damage to America by what TSA and Homeland Security are doing? Very high. I weep, literally weep, for my country sometimes right now, when I read of liberty after liberty being eroded.

Concerned Observer said...

The Delete-O-Meter still has not been updated. I would like to see it updated. I know for a fact that one of my comments has been deleted since the last time the number changed, so you cannot claim that no comments have been deleted... unless you are purposely leaving the comments in the queue without accepting them rather than deleting them.
That would be deceptive, which shatters the truthful and friendly image you've tried so hard to forge here.

RB said...

Regarding this comment.

QUESTION: Is her grabbing and positioning my arms without my permission valid ground for a complaint by me, or it part of standard operating procedures? If so, I'll have to opt-out next time though I really, really don't want to.
Please answer.

January 29, 2011 5:54 PM

.................

I beleive you were assaulted by that TSA employee and should consult a lawyer.

Anonymous said...

I'm the person who posted regarding the TSA officer grabbing my arms and moving them into position. I appreciate the response by RB, who wrote,
"I beleive you were assaulted by that TSA employee and should consult a lawyer."

Yeah, I was angry and shocked at the time--still am, a little. But although there are things TSA officers have done to other passengers that would cause me to consider filing suit, this isn't one of them. You see, I really felt sure this woman TSA officer meant well. She just didn't have a clue about what was appropriate behavior in the circumstance, and she wanted to keep the line moving. In other words, she wasn't being nasty or manipulative or rude on purpose--I'm guessing that it was simply that her training was abysmal or non-existent in regard to circumstances such as mine. Which is why I'm wondering what the training is, what the correct operating procedure is, and whether TSA officers are supposed to touch us in order to "arrange" us in the scanner. Because I'm definitely not risking that kind of pain again, if it's standard procedure to touch and move passenger limbs in the scanner--even though for personal reasons, I truly dread a pat-down and the possibility of failing the nitrate test and being made to go to one of those so-called private rooms, which seem like an invitation to abuse to me.

TSA, do you get it? I'm absolutely scared of your agents. And I'm not the only one. Does anyone in TSA or Homeland Security care at all?

Anonymous said...

why aren't any of the questions being answered, blogger bob?

almost seems like this blog is just set up to let people vent without addressing any questions raised.

Anonymous said...

And you guys are all worried about screeners.

Medical students are performing intrusive exams on unconscious patients.

http://tinyurl.com/4ce28hn

Anonymous said...

At least the medical students with bad ethics are all in teaching hospitals and you have a choice not to go there. They don't really post teaching airports so the questionable ethics of TSA agents are mixed in everywhere the TSA might be.

Anonymous said...

What percentage of post are not posted on this forum I know less than 50% of my question ever got posted I think I'm 2 for 5

Ayn R. Key said...

Asking Bob for his supervisor won't work. The email address TSAblog@dhs.gov won't work since it is answered by Bob.

When I asked him directly via email to contact his supervisor, he claims he passed the request along. The supervisor made no contact with me, and I doubt is aware that I requested contact.

There was a Dilbert comic strip where the engineers demanded the boss discipline the secretary. The boss asked the secretary for a disciplinary form, and she said she'd get right on it after she finished her ski trip to hell.

Bob will surely relay all requests for supervisory contact, round about the 31st of February.

RB said...

Anonymous said...
I'm the person who posted regarding the TSA officer grabbing my arms and moving them into position. I appreciate the response by RB, who wrote,
"I beleive you were assaulted by that TSA employee and should consult a lawyer."

Yeah, I was angry and shocked at the time--still am, a little. But although there are things TSA officers have done to other passengers that would cause me to consider filing suit, this isn't one of them. You see, I really felt sure this woman TSA officer meant well. She just didn't have a clue about what was appropriate behavior in the circumstance, and she wanted to keep the line moving. In other words, she wasn't being nasty or manipulative or rude on purpose--I'm guessing that it was simply that her training was abysmal or non-existent in regard to circumstances such as mine. Which is why I'm wondering what the training is, what the correct operating procedure is, and whether TSA officers are supposed to touch us in order to "arrange" us in the scanner. Because I'm definitely not risking that kind of pain again, if it's standard procedure to touch and move passenger limbs in the scanner--even though for personal reasons, I truly dread a pat-down and the possibility of failing the nitrate test and being made to go to one of those so-called private rooms, which seem like an invitation to abuse to me.

TSA, do you get it? I'm absolutely scared of your agents. And I'm not the only one. Does anyone in TSA or Homeland Security care at all?

January 30, 2011 9:08 PM
.................
Ok, the TSA screener was nice while they assaulted you.

Does that really make it ok?

TSA will not tell you what training these people get. TSA will not even respond in an honest manner to your query.

TSA is not your friend, TSA is not on your side and TSA will not rectify an incident caused by a TSA employee.

If you don't take action then when it happens the next time be sure to not complain.

Oh, I did not say sue TSA, I suggest you consult with an attorney.

Concerned Observer said...

Thank you for updating the Delete-O-Meter. Rather unfortunately, the number of deleted messages is not encouraging. The TSA may need to forgo one of those additional WBI machines in order to form a better ethics board.

Anonymous said...

To the lady who was assaulted.

Firstly, I am sorry for your experience. While this entire experiment by the TSA is misguided at best, some people obviously have worse experiences than others. A TSO certainly has no right to manipulate your body in such a way, especially after stating that you had a medical condition.

No matter her intentions, a lawsuit is the only way to get the attention of the TSA. If this TSO honestly believes it is acceptable to manipulate another's person without warning or consent, she has certainly been poorly trained to do her job. This speaks to institutional issues and shifts blame to the agency, rather than a well-meaning, although rude and condescending employee.

While you may not have the time, energy or resources to bring suit against the TSA, it is instances like this that need to be brought to the forefront. What happens to the next person who is treated the same way if no corrective action is taken? What if the next person has a condition worse than yours? What if the next person is elderly and has other issues that are complicated by such treatment?

With all due respect, I would urge you to file a complaint at a minimum. However, a complaint against the employee may only get her a slap on the wrist and have no effect on the poor training habits of the agency as a whole.

Anonymous said...

To the lady who stated the TSA agent grabbed her arms and lifted them causing her pain. Why us everybody telling her to call a lawyer Assault us criminal call the police! it that doesn't work call the attorney generals office for the state your reside in and ask for a disability advocate.

Thats what there for.

The TSA has a dismal record for dealing with handicapped individuals trust me I'm a amputee and they can't figure it out at all. I've been asked several times to remove my leg then walk through ???

Complaint's basically go nowhere with the TSA they smother you with calls and sympathetic statements and then at the end they say " were sorry but we give each agent the leeway to decide what is required" and then they hide under the old " Keeping America Safe jargon. I rarely complain to TSA anymore but you can bet that how a political candidate speaks about the TSA is what will decide my vote from now on until this travesty is removed.

Bubba said...

Bob,

I am still waiting impatiently for a response to that article published last May in the World´s top scientific journal Nature saying there is no scientific basis for your activities.

Are you really going to continue ignoring real science?

Anonymous said...

Most of us have noticed the trend of TSA personnel to harass and humiliate the handicapped, children, elderly. How many of us have heard or been called "Pal", "Honey", "Sweetie" or the prize: "Buster"? All aimed at demeaning the citizen trying to travel in what used to be a country that respected its citizens.

As long as the adversarial relationship between TSA and Americans exists,there will always be friction. Maybe the TSA folks don't realize that, for the time the passenger sees and deals with them, they are the United States Government and the experience reflects directly on that government.

Maybe they do.

Anonymous said...

http://www.tsa.gov/who_we_are/workforce/workforce_stories/catch_100110.shtm

I saw the above post regarding tactical pens.

Can the TSA issue some clarity on how a tactical pen (a pen made usually made of sturdy steel or aluminum, with at least one pointy end, capable of being used for self defense purposes) differs from a well-made non-tactical pen (a pen made usually made of sturdy steel or aluminum, with at least one pointy end, ALSO capable of being used for self defense purposes), aside from the manufacturer's own marketing materials?

I happen to own one of these, but it's not any more lethal than a metal Parker or Rotring pen, so I'm curious what the TSA sees as being the main difference.

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Can the comments please be posted by the approved date / time - as opposed to the date / time that it was originally submitted?

The longer the comments section has progressed, it becomes ever more increasingly difficult to locate the newest posts. I doubt it is only me that gets a bit frustrated in coming back to the site, see that comments number has gone up, but the lastest comments in the thread are still the same ones I read the last time I checked.

As there appears to be no way to mark the ones that have been read to quickly find the new ones, I again request that they be posted in the order of approval.

Any help in this would be appreicated. Thanks!

Blogger Bob said...
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Blogger Bob said...

Hi, it's the way Blogger works, love it or hate it. If you scroll all the way to the bottom, you will see

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This will allow you to jump around in the comments. I agree it is confusing.

However, the easiest way is to subscribe to the comments via an RSS feed. That way, you will be sent all comments chronologically.

It can also be found at the bottom of the page.

RSS FEED FOR THIS POST

Thanks,

Blogger Bob
TSA Blog Team

Anonymous said...

"TSA folks don't realize that...they are the United States Government"

I'm sure to many people the TSA representative is the only Federal presence they deal with directly on a regular basis. Certainly TSA behavior colors people's opinion of all government.

Concerned Observer said...

Hello again, Bob. I'm a bit surprised... no blog post about the Superbowl? I think this is something that is highly important! I would certainly say that it is just as important as the filter being tested in the Las Vegas MMW machines.

Anonymous said...

Soon the TSA will be unionized, if people do not contact Congress and tell them to defund and disband the TSA.

Yes, the well-paid federal employees of the TSA, who have the entire power of the federal government behind them, feel they are so put upon by The Man (that is, the taxpayers who pay their salaries) that they need union protection. If you think they're uncaring, arrogant, and incompetent now, wait until they're unionized.

The TSA is not inevitable; they've only existed for 10 years. This bloated, ineffective agency can be ended now. Once its workers have union protection and are a guarenteed voting bloc for one party, it will never happen. Please, contact your Member of Congress today.

Anonymous said...

Interesting that you have to remove MORE with this than with other devices. More interesting tis the fact the Chertoff, former head of this mess, is the chief lobbyist for the Rapidscan the company that makes the device. As usual enforcement is one giant bribe factory

Bubba said...

Hey Bob,

How about answering that extensive, detailed article published in the World's most respected journal Nature saying there is no scientific basis for SPOT activities.

You said you were looking into it, remember? That was about 6 months ago, remember?

Or are you just trying to see if I'll forget about it?

I won't.

Your organization has done many stupid things, but ignoring science is the worst of all.

Anonymous said...

I'm so excited - I've been censored for the first time!

Paraphrasing the original comment:

In the case of the "tactical pen" incident mentioned above, this is yet another innocent individual who will be out hundreds, or more likely, thousands of dollars in travel and legal expenses to defend himself from TSA's spurious charges.

Looks to me like TSA has discovered another way to indirectly punish the peons - even if you are found not guilty (most likely outcome in most cases, it seems) you will still be punished monetarily to defend yourself. I would be ruined by that sort of activity, for doing nothing wrong myself. Yet another thing for anyone in TSA to be abjectly ashamed about.

I will keep posting this until it gets through, and report any further attempts at censorship.

Anonymous said...

Since when did common courtesy go out the window? I don't care if you want to search my luggage, but for gods sake put it back the way I packed it. I want to thank you for breaking open my bottle of liquid calcium, because your agents put it on top and out of the bag I had it in to protect the rest of my clothes. No wonder you people have a BAD reputation....you deserve it.

Anonymous said...

My wife is scheduled to travel tomorrow, but her purse was stolen. She has a certified birth certificate. Is that adequate for her to travel?

Anonymous said...

I was just reading the New York Times article about support growing for a risk-based approach to passenger screening, which would be a wonderful improvement. One passage gave me pause, however: "trusted travelers would probably pay a fee for the vetting." We already pay for the people and technology that identifies all of us, and there is no way - for example - that my 87 year old mother could or would pay for this. And yes, she does have to travel by air. If the TSA is serious about gathering input, here is one suggestion: No fees for proving that we are not terrorists.

Anonymous said...

Why have you never answered my question about those of us who have less than the perfect health our God-appointed TSA Officers have?

Is a traveler with diabetes, heart disease, arthritis, AIDS, etc? required to use you new-fangled ID cards or other methods to declare their disability in all cases, or only if it affects screening? Are we subject to criminal liability if we fail to? What if we tell your TSOs but they don't make an appropriate official memorandum?

This affects millions of Americans who aren't blessed with the perfect health required of our highly-compensated Government Employees. Why won't you answer reasonable questions.

Blogger Bob said...

Anon Said...Is a traveler with diabetes, heart disease, arthritis, AIDS, etc? required to use you new-fangled ID cards or other methods to declare their disability in all cases, or only if it affects screening? Are we subject to criminal liability if we fail to? What if we tell your TSOs but they don't make an appropriate official memorandum?
By Anonymous on Please Post Off Topic Comments Here on 2/9/11
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Hi. Nobody is required to use the cards. The cards are just a quick way for someone to discreetly let one of our officers know that they have a disability that my affect their screening. If you have a hidden disability that doesn’t affect screening, there would be no reason to even bring it up. If you do disclose your disability and you feel that you’re not being screened properly, you can request a supervisor or manager.

Thanks,

Blogger Bob
TSA Blog Team

Anonymous said...

With 2 titanium hips I set off the metal detectors. The 'naked machine' is reported by the TSA agent to be: 1) broken 2) got unplugged 3) hasn't been turned on 4) isn't working today 5) doesn't have staff for it. I'm placed in a glass cage, separated from my purse and laptop and then groped. No chair to sit in while in the cage. Every time, this circus takes ridiculous amount of time and humiliates me. I'd go through your blessed naked machine but it's not available. This was at MCO in Dec 2010, among others. I now hate flying. Public groping is going too far. Private groping is no better.

Anonymous said...

Houston.... Ooops... I mean, Richmond, we have a problem... A BIG problem:


http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2010/02/05/tsa-hires-felon-forces-airport-to-issue-security-badge/

Why the heck would the TSA defend a convicted robber, especially when he is in a position to steal valuable stuff? I know from experience that the TSA does not allow you to keep an eye on your belongings. I learned this when I was randomly selected for "enhanced" patdown after successfully going through metal detector in Atlanta at Christmastime. The TSO took my bin with my wallet and all belongings OUT OF THE SECURITY AREA, way way out of my line of sight. (I won't even tell you the humiliation the patdown causes... you already know this.) But, seriously, why on Earth would you take on the liability of hiring criminals, especially with the poor reputation that TSA already has?

Bubba said...

Hi Bob!

I´m still waiting for an answer, any answer, from the TSA regarding the article in the top scientific journal Nature that states there is no science to support the multi-million dollar SPOT program.

Shame on you for ignoring Science.

Concerned Observer said...

I would very much like to see some sort of reply to the article in Nature published some time ago about the SPOT program. Has the SPOT program changed any since the publication of aforementioned article? Has the TSA done its own study to counter the study published in Nature?

Anonymous said...

"I´m still waiting for an answer, any answer..."

Welcome to the Twilight Zone. No answers come from this section. Few from the live sections. Here you live as: "Five Characters in Search of an Exit." Characters lost in space and time.

Enjoy your frustrations.

Bubba said...

Hey Bob - look! I´m not the only one who wants an answer regarding the Nature article that states there is no science behind SPOT.

You say you have a Science & Technology Directorate (S&T). Do they read the main scientific journals there, or are they just labeled with that fancy name to make them feel good?

Anonymous said...

"Screener admits stealing from air travelers
Supervisor at N.J. airport says he accepted bribes, faces up to 15 years in prison."

To all those defenders of the TSA this was posted on MSN today 2-14-11.

The amount was between 10 and 30 thousand dollars over a 13 month period by his subordinate.

Yet, the TSA still claims that passenger belongings are never outside their sight. If that were the case this couldn't happen.

Anonymous said...

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/02/staying-classy-at-the-tsa/71285/

Get rid of all male TSA agents. Seriously, I've delt with both male and female agents. All the extreme jerks were men. Once, I was treated rudely by a female, but I have been threatened and harassed by men several times. Most male agents are professional. So are most female agents. But, lets face it, most of the agents with big big PR problems and criminal histories are men. Women are better at interpreting non-verbal communication, and they are better with PR. If you must employ men, please hire a few only so you have someone to do patdowns on other men.

Anonymous said...

Security? You can't even clean up your own act. Some security agency.

SFS retired said...

TSA states on their web site how they hire the Vets even with disabilities. I find this is not true; the fact is when I applied and listed VA related medical conditions the TSA medical personnel went out of their way to make it difficult for me. Even conditions the VA did not list as a disability the TSA medical personnel wanted me to have a surgeon sign off on me as fit for duty. This was at my own expense mind you. I am really disappointed since I have 25 years experience as an Air Force Security Forces member. More experience than most of the supervisors.

Anonymous said...

Bob,

When are you going to post the whitewash of the latest fiasco?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bags_tsa_agents_busted_checked_jfk_FRka1bq83wcuV1xwkEwUJK

Anonymous said...

SFS Retired,

The key to your non-hiring was in your last 2 lines.

"I am really disappointed since I have 25 years experience as an Air Force Security Forces member. More experience than most of the supervisors."

They don't want competition from someone who has a clue. They purposely made your hiring process a chore and a sham to prevent it.

Anonymous said...

TSA bloggers,

Care to comment on this incident:

http://www.everywhereist.com/dick-move-tsa-r-i-p-rands-laptop/

Was the supervisor right to refuse to give the TSO's name so that a claim could not be filed? Right to photocopy the passsenger's ID? Right to engage in intimidation tactics.

Isolated incident, right? :(

Bubba said...

It has now been 38 weeks since the Nature article stating there is no science behind the SPOT program was published.

You have been ignoring this article for 38 weeks.

Nature is the most respected scientific publication in the World.

Shameful.

ledlum said...

i am travelling on wednesday with ten laptops in my carry on of 45 inches(length+breadth+width) for office set up, they are not in boxes. Will i face problems at security. Can check in because used all monies to pay for ticket change.

Anonymous said...

Bubba said:

It has now been 38 weeks since the Nature article stating there is no science behind the SPOT program was published.

You have been ignoring this article for 38 weeks.

Bubba, get a clue. TSA gets to decide the topicsto write on and have the choice, just as you do, to respond or not to inquiries. If discussing this article is so important to you, why don't you start your own blogsite. Then you can discuss it to your heart's content.

Anonymous said...

I have international travel booked for March 12 to March 19. If there is a government shutdown, do you know yet what the response of the TSA and air traffic control will be? I need to know whether or not to buy trip insurance.

thanks,

./paul

Anonymous said...

People are getting a little fed up?

jameslgoehring said...

I fly from LAX to ATL on MOnday and had carry on and check in baggage questions. For the ease and protection of my check in bag, and essential items I will need for Hiking the Appalachian trail, I have split it into 1 checked and 1 carryon.
I have my tent with poles all wrapped up, I have trekking poles that break down into 3 peices, all as carryon....is this a problem with TSA?

Bubba said...

Dear Anonymous who told me to get a clue,

If you think it is OK for a government agency that costs millions to completely ignore a highly respected scientific publication stating there is no scientific support for its actions, you think the government should be able to get away with anything.

I find that sad.

I'll continue to insist.

Anonymous said...

Bubba nobody disagrees - but your just beating a dead horse, nobody is gonna answer your question. Honestly with all the horrendous things the TSA has done to every class of Americans to be offended because they won't tell you what they think of a magazine article isn't much of a minimal issue. Want to care about something it should be them ignoring the Constitution not Nature magazine.

Bubba said...

I´m a scientist. Nature is not "a magazine" for us. It is a highly respected journal. I know my insistence is pointless, but I won´t relent!

How about this for another subject the blog should comment on: Rep. Sharon Cissna traveling to Juneau by land after she agreed to a whole body scan but was still required to be groped by the TSA. She is a breast cancer survivor who had had a similar and bad experience in the past and simply decided it was not worth it.

The subject is good because it brings to life the central fallacy of whole body scans: They produce images of objects and are incapable of differentiating a breast prosthetic from a prohibit item.

Anonymous said...

You guys at TSA have been illegally censoring post so fast that the Post count in some threads do not add up to the number of post actually in the threads.

Is it really that hard for you guys to run a blog?

Concerned Observer said...

Bubba,
I understand your frustration, but there is a point where the silence means "we, the TSA, don't care and won't change anything about our BDO program." The TSA has ignored the study and will do so for the entire run of their existence.
What really need to be done is more similar studies, to prove without a doubt that the Nature article's conclusions are correct.
Just my two cents. ;D
-Concerned Observer

Anonymous said...

I have applied for a TSA TWIC card. Because of some things being questioned in my back ground, a process that was supposed to take 6 to 8 weeks could go as long as 6 to 8 months! Me going back to work is dependent upon me getting my TWIC card...I cannot go back until I receive this card. I am a single mother with 5 children and I had an extremely good job until this nightmare. I would like to know why your process for TWIC card waivers takes so long? Are you aware of the length of time it takes? Why are you all not doing SOMETHING to speed up this process if you know there are hundreds of thousands of application awaiting approval? Why do you not update on the site or somewhere where a particular application is in the process? Is there someone I can talk to about getting my application looked at a lot sooner? I have a mortgage payment that is way past due because I can't go back to work! I hope you all understand my as well as others frustration with your process!!!! You all have jobs and we are trying to get back to work. I don't know how important that is to you but somebody needs to look this process over and rethink how its done. Please answer all above questions as soon as possible. Thanks,
Tonya

Bubba said...

Concerned observer,

We don´t have any studies to do. Nature´s conclusion was that there is no science out there to support the program. If there is, the TSA has to show it. The ball is in their hands.

Concerned Observer said...

Bubba,
Good point!
The TSA seems to believe that it doesn't have to prove anything. In any case, your persistence is commendable and I want to see the question of the Nature article answered. I'm sure many others have it in the back of their minds as well.

I'm going to venture a guess that there will never be a comment on the Nature article because the TSA can't think up anything to smear the legitimacy of the study.

Anonymous said...

Searched getting OFF a train.

You'll soon get your private parts extra irradiated.

One woman stands alone and says, "Enough!

Has anyone noticed what TSA has done to our country?

Anonymous said...

This is beyond a travesty now I was at the airport tonight waiting for my wife and I watched the security line for about 20 minutes and I watched them "randomly" select people for secondary pat downs "groping" the nine I saw selected were all attractive women under 40 making this about as random as a playmate search.

This needs to be beyond complaints to the TSA we need to vote and hold lawmakers accountable at the ballot box for not only failing to support the constitution but for paying for these atrocities that have become the norm.

Anonymous said...

Why is anyone surprised that the TSA is ignoring the Nature article? Real science means nothing to the TSA wait until the real science comes to light from constantly irradiating frequent fliers.

Hopefully this will be corrected and the TSA leadership and supporters will pay more attention to magazines like Nature when there selling them door to door.

Bubba said...

Concerned Observer,

You hit the nail on the head: the TSA doesn´t provide a response to the Nature article because they have none. They are hoping that by ignoring it, it will cease to exist.

Not on my watch.

It has now been 39 weeks since the publication of an article in the top scientific Nature stating there is no science behind the SPOT program, which continues to be in place, wasting millions.

Anonymous said...

"You all have jobs and we are trying to get back to work. I don't know how important that is to you but somebody needs to look this process over and rethink how its done. Please answer all above questions as soon as possible. Thanks,"

Their government just doesn't care any more about you than the tyrants in North Africa care about their people. Never expect any response in Off Topic Comments. You might try your congressperson.

Anonymous said...

What does TSA have to say about the recent internet video that shows 14 TSA agents searching passengers and their baggage after getting off a train in Savannah, GA?

Bryan P said...

Hello Blogger Bob, any comments on the news reports out of DFW that despite spending millions of tax-payer dollars, the new body scanners are worthless, TSOs are letting guns through checkpoints, and no one's getting disciplined?
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/TSA-Agent-Slips-Through-DFW-Body-Scanner-With-a-Gun-116497568.html
http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2011/02/guns_planes?fsrc=scn/fb/wl/bl/wellarmedskies

RB said...

Bryan P said...
Hello Blogger Bob, any comments on the news reports out of DFW that despite spending millions of tax-payer dollars, the new body scanners are worthless, TSOs are letting guns through checkpoints, and no one's getting disciplined?
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/TSA-Agent-Slips-Through-DFW-Body-Scanner-With-a-Gun-116497568.html
http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2011/02/guns_planes?fsrc=scn/fb/wl/bl/wellarmedskies

February 27, 2011 1:45 PM
................

Perhaps why the MMW Strip Search Machine was turned off at DFW when I went through there last week.

Also the Backscatter Death Ray Strip Search Machine was turned off at FLL when I went through there a couple of days ago.

Is TSA going to toss these Strip Search Machines in the trash like they did with the millions of dollars of Explosive Trace Detectors?

RB said...

http://go-jamaica.com/news/read_article.php?id=26809

"Last night, there were anxious moments aboard Air Jamaica flight 037 after passengers were prevented for disembarking for more than 45 minutes because of a suspected cargo threat."


"But he says after almost an hour combing through the luggage on board, the TSA authorities gave the all-clear for the passengers to disembark flight 037."


Let me see if I understand TSA's mode of operation.

TSA thinks there is a threat in the cargo of an Air Jamaica flight that landed at FLL.

Instead of disembarking the passengers and crew TSA in all of its wisdom searches for the bomb with all the people still onboard the aircraft.

Is that about the size of it Bob? TSA placed these people in harms way while searching for a possible bomb?

No wonder people disrespects TSA.

Anonymous said...

I love this:

According to a few recent polls, the DHS and TSA in particular have surpassed the IRS as the single most hated and reviled agency in the United States.

Congratulations!!! Job well done.

Anonymous said...

I began to sense faintly that secrecy is the keystone of all tyranny. Not force, but secrecy ... censorship. When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know, the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything -- you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.—Robert A. Heinlein (1940)

Anonymous said...

Any comment on Rep. Cissna´s ordeal? No? So you prefer to ignore the fact that you are invasively probing mastectomized women even after they accept to be virtually strip-searched?

RB said...

Bob, anyway you can make new comments show up first instead of having to go to the end of the thread?

This thread is getting very long and it is a pain in the tuckus to dig down to the end.

RB said...

This is how TSA works!

TSA’s GRAND PLAN FOR AIRCRAFT SECURITY

I can see this scenario playing out;

Secretary DHS thank you for appearing before the Senate Anti-Terrorism Committee today.

As you know on July 4 last year Flight XXX exploded while on approach to DCA. All 190 crew and passengers aboard the aircraft plus 50 people on the ground were killed.

Yes Senator, all of DHS is aware an offer our condolences to the families of the victims. After extensive investigation the conclusion of the investigators is that an explosive in a passengers bag caused the accident. We have endeavored to determine how the device was introduced to the aircraft.

TSA is an activity under your Department, correct?

Yes

TSA is responsible to keep explosives off of aircraft, correct?

Yes
TSA inspects all luggage placed on aircraft, correct?
Yes
This luggage is maintained in a secure manner after inspection, correct?

Well, not exactly Senator. TSA does inspect the luggage but after inspection we turn it over to the airline or airport employees to transport to the aircraft. We can’t be responsible for what happens after our inspection.

Secretary DHS, I would assume that all people who handle this luggage have been screened for items that cannot be taken into the secure area of the airport, correct?

Well, Senator, we don’t use the same screening standards for our people and other airport workers as we do for people who actually fly on the planes. All of the airport workers including TSA employees have had Back Ground checks. So we only feel a random screening method is needed.

So Secretary DHS, it is entirely possible for any of the people in the secure area except for the passengers to have introduced a weapon or explosive to an aircraft is that correct?

That would be correct Senator……………..

Anonymous said...

Bob,

Looks like TSA flubbed it again. Are you gonna apologize for them too?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/tsa_staff_jet_blew_it_Y7NcXScFd0oS2HNvkypthP

Anonymous said...

Is this some perverse joke? TSA was founded because of some people with box cutters. Billions of dollars spent on dangerous, worthless and silly solutions. The weak, infirm humiliated in countless situations.

And you still can't stop boxcutters.

Anonymous said...

I would suggest that all TSA screeners are educated on the acceptable forms of ID, as listed on TSA's website. I have used my SENTRI card (Issued by DHS) as my government photo ID at the TSA screen area many times, and none of the screeners were familiar with it and asked for another form of ID. The underlying principle is that TSA policy should be consistent with how the policy is executed.

Anonymous said...

Can't get through a week without a scandal?

Bubba said...

Today marks the 40th week anniversary of the article in the top scientific journal Nature stating there is no science behind the SPOT program.

The TSA has been completely silent about this article, beside acknowledging its exsistance.

The TSA ignores the most prestigious scientific publication on Earth, while wasting millions without achieving a thing.

Anonymous said...

Only in modern America would the Federal Government pay a suspected felon to X-ray me and frisk me because I'm handicapped and want to fly a commercial flight. Can't stop boxcutters, drugs or illegal cash but there great at taking away kids toys and bottles of drinking water.

Anonymous said...

Most law enforcement officers need a warrant and probable cause to search my house and personal effects. Searching my body is a lot more personal than that. How can the tsa do a search withaout a reason to susppect that I've committed some sort of crime?

Theflowerlady said...

I can't sift through the entire blog to see if my topic has been covered, but I surprised my husband with a trip for his birthday, I have purchased the flights already and after telling him I discovered he has to renew his license. We will be leaving before he gets his new license, so how do we get through security with an expired license that has been renewed but not yet received? Of course, he has a paper receipt, but it seems that is not helpful. What should we do?

Anonymous said...

Okay, so the one really nagging question I've had since this whole naked imaging circus began is this:

Why do you use two kinds of naked body scanners? We know that millimeter wave technology is MUCH safer than backscatter, so why aren't we using millimeter wave exclusively? Sounds to me like the TSA is really in bed with the Chertoff Group.

I would consent to going through the millimeters wave scans with the new, modesty enhancing software, as long as the images are viewed in a public location.

But, I will NEVER consent to being irradiated by backscatter. My husband has a Ph.D in engineering. He is an expert in X-ray technology, and he questions weather the machines are safe. He says there's absolutely no possible way they could be using soft X-rays.

"Enhanced" patdowns are, unequivocally, unacceptable as primary screening for people who pose zero threat to aviation security. They are illegal under the Constitution, and it's time for the law to start being enforced!

RB said...

Three TSA Blog Moderators yet days go by without any updates.

Strange, what with all of the TSA related news of the last week or two and not a word from the Blog.

Hiding?

Anonymous said...

TSA security is anything that feels good on a given day. Like children making up games in a schoolyard. The terrorist not only won, they rule the country.

Bubba said...

Hi Bob,

Today marks the 41st week anniversary of the Nature article stating there is no science behind the SPOT program. We still have heard nothing from the TSA on this article, despite the fact that Nature is the most respected scientific journal on Earth.

Why do you ignore good science?

Ayn R. Key said...

RB, you just don't get it.

How can the TSA luggage inspectors steal from your luggage if it is in TSA control the whole time?

They need it to be passed off to airline ground crews so that they will have someone else to blame.

RB said...

The TSA Blog is once again engaged in extremely heavy censorship of comments that meet all posting standards so we will once again start keeping track of the Deleted Posts counter.

What a shame that these so called Protectors of the Constitution are so afraid of free speech.

March 10, 2011: Deleted Post 8574

RB said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAWvd1Mzusg


"Atlanta TSA threats of arrest and detainment over videotaping body scanner opt out pat down "

..................
Question for TSA.

Was this a demonstration of "Correct Procedures" being used as claimed in the hostage taking of the lady who asked for alternative screening of her breast milk?

Screen Print Captured for evidence of TSA illegal Censorship.

03/11/2011 Deleted Posts = 8574

Anonymous said...

The world watches the TSA experiment.

Anonymous said...

Apparently the TSA is still up to it's same old tricks, regardless of the stated policy.

The only interference I was able to see on the video link posted above was being done by the TSA itself. By any definition this mans rights were being violated.

I also find it telling that no comments have been forthcoming by the TSA's representatives on any recent postings.

RB said...

Screen Print Captured for evidence of TSA illegal Censorship.

03/11/2011 Deleted Posts = 8574


03/11/2011 Deleted Post = 8790


216 post deleted since last update.

So why is TSA afraid of the publics comments?

Anonymous said...

The TSA spokeswoman Davis insisted that the traveling public was not at risk.

"There have been a number of additional security layers that have been implemented on aircraft that would prevent someone from causing harm with boxcutters," she insisted.

"They include the possible presence of armed federal air marshals, hardened cockpit doors, flight crews trained in self-defense and a more vigilant traveling public who have demonstrated a willingness to intervene."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/tsa_staff_jet_blew_it_Y7NcXScFd0oS2HNvkypthP#ixzz1GLEyogXK

This statement issued at the time of and regarding one of the most recent TSA foul-ups states in no uncertain terms why the new "enhanced" security measures are absolutely useless. I like the fact that the statement was issued by the TSA itself.

I realize it was about those pesky box-cutters but it also applies to the other security problems as well. At least to people with any common sense that is.

Bill Harshaw said...

Does this still work? I wonder if you all are aware of the post at this blog describing a procedure used by Mexico to randomize baggage searches? http://www.themonkeycage.org/2011/03/randomizing_customs.html

Anonymous said...

Too much negative comments. Everyone should lighten up. Think positive.

Anonymous said...

Recently a TSA Blogger stated that they monitor the Web to decide which stories about the TSA to cover. There have been several states who are now working on legislation to specifically outlaw and criminalize the Strip Search machines and the genital and breast searches. These news reports are important.

WHY HAS THE TSA BLOG NOT INCLUDED SPECIFIC BLOGS ABOUT THIS ISSUE???????????????????????

Andy said...

Bob,

Recently while traveling out of Chattannoga Metropolitan Airport (CHA) a TSO confiscated an empty water bottle. What (if any) is the TSA policy regarding travelers taking empty water bottles through the security checkpoint?

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